Aluar es muy inoportuna. Siempre hay alguien que escupe el asado.
Si no son las elecciones, es la FED, corrupcion en Brasil, caída del aluminio, caída del OIL, Corea, FED de nuevo, postergacion de emergentes, trump, aranceles, etc....
Cuando estamos por salir, siempre nos la ponen.
Qué linda subida se va a pegar si trump recula con el aumento a las importaciones. Se dará?
O será el turno del bearmarket para escupirnos el asado?
ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
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25% de baja desde máximos, más de 4 pesos de caída.
Muy castigada.
Muy castigada.
Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
Trump has spoken with world leaders, no tariff exemptions - Ross to ABC
Reuters March 4, 2018
WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has spoken to world leaders about his planned tariff hike on steel and aluminum and is not considering any exemptions to the measure, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Sunday.
"I know he's had conversations with a number of the world leaders," Ross said in an interview with ABC's "This Week."
"The decision obviously is his, but as of the moment as far as I know he's talking about a fairly broad brush. I have not heard him describe particular exemptions just yet," Ross said. (Reporting by Doina Chiacu Editing by Alexander
Reuters March 4, 2018
WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has spoken to world leaders about his planned tariff hike on steel and aluminum and is not considering any exemptions to the measure, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Sunday.
"I know he's had conversations with a number of the world leaders," Ross said in an interview with ABC's "This Week."
"The decision obviously is his, but as of the moment as far as I know he's talking about a fairly broad brush. I have not heard him describe particular exemptions just yet," Ross said. (Reporting by Doina Chiacu Editing by Alexander
Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
gracias que Aluar y Erar son Monopolicas en Argentina sino valdrian ,menos aun. En cuanto los amenazan un poco como cuando querian enchufar ductos chinos en Cordoba Paolo empezo a cacarear y bajo los precios.
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Merval News escribió:EE.UU. le bajó el tono al anuncio sobre subas de aranceles al acero y aluminio
“Hubo una tremenda sobrerreacción en los mercados. Toda esta histeria es mucho sobre la nada”, deslizó la Secretaría de Comercio estadounidense.
Horas después que el presidente estadounidense, Donald Trump, adelantara un incremento de aranceles para las importaciones de acero y aluminio, desde la Secretaría de Comercio de ese país salieron a intentar poner paños fríos luego de las fuertes caídas experimentadas por los mercados globales.
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Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
Coloquen el valor en $13 y esta y erar compro.
Ese es un buen valor para comprar sin tantos riesgos-
Ese es un buen valor para comprar sin tantos riesgos-
Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
Buenas gente. A éste precio no me pude resistir... Acá estoy adentro con bastante mas de lo que me había quedado... A esperar buenos balances y dividendos. Siempre que llovió paró... No me quiero perder el movimiento de Aluar a éstos precios después que me dio tantísimas satisfacciones. Saludos y buen finde.
Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino
El Macro reventando.
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garapata escribió:Que sangría pobre los comprados en 17 /18 mangos la están matando.
Sip. Ya 4 mangos de baja.
Veremos si hace pie.
Para MI, estos son precios para empezar a entrar, no de venta. Pero......
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ugo38 escribió:Desesperados por salir.
Que sangría pobre los comprados en 17 /18 mangos la están matando.
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Desesperados por salir.
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Sin desperdicio, recién salido del horno, artículo de una de las más importantes organizaciones en las cuales reside el Poder Mundial, usina de cerebros y coautora en bambalinas de las decisiones de Estrategia norteamericana....
Un párrafo lo condensa todo:
"It was once said that Britain lost its empire in a fit of absent-mindedness; the United States, it now appears, could lose its own in a fit of Donald Trump’s impulsiveness."
https://www.cfr.org/blog/donald-trump-s ... pbC5jb20S1
"Donald Trump, Steel Tariffs, and the Costs of Chaos" Blog Post by Edward Alden
"When President Nixon announced on August 15, 1971 that the United States would impose a 10 percent across-the-board tariff on imports—the most significant import restrictions since the 1930s—it followed an intense weekend of deliberations among his top officials at Camp David. Nixon’s economic brain trust spent three days carefully hammering out the details of the import restraints, and then signaled to the world that the president was prepared to lift them as soon as U.S. trading partners allowed their currencies to rise. The tariffs were removed four months later after a negotiated agreement.
When President Trump announced March 1, 2018 that the United States would impose 25 percent tariffs on imported steel and 10 percent tariffs on aluminum—the most significant import restrictions since 1971—it followed a morning of sheer chaos in the White House. The administration had announced the night before that leading steel and aluminum makers were invited to the White House, leading to speculation that new tariffs would be announced. But in the morning White House officials backed off, with the press office saying instead that it would only be a “listening session.” And then, with the cameras rolling and his own staff apparently unprepared, President Trump announced that the tariffs would be unveiled next week and would be kept in place “for a long period of time.”
It was once said that Britain lost its empire in a fit of absent-mindedness; the United States, it now appears, could lose its own in a fit of Donald Trump’s impulsiveness.
The precise contours of the new measures are still unknown. The administration may exempt still large suppliers like Canada and Brazil, and may exclude some products, though Trump told industry officials he does not want exemptions. There will be frenetic lobbying between now and the final announcement. And the negative market reaction—the Dow Jones fell about 600 points after the announcement—could stay the president’s hand.
But the issue is not simply the economic consequences. The president’s announcement yesterday was the clearest and most disturbing sign yet that he is quite prepared to take ill-considered actions that will chip away at the foundations of the global trading system.
The problems in the steel and aluminum industries are real—global overcapacity caused primarily by Chinese state subsidies to their producers. But the proposed measures are wildly indiscriminate, and will hit many countries, among them the closest U.S. allies and others that have played by the rules of the trading system.
The new tariffs rely on a provision of law—Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 which allows imports to be blocked on national security grounds—that has not been used successfully in decades. Previous administrations had interpreted the provision narrowly, requiring evidence that the military needs of the Pentagon could not be supplied by U.S. production or by close allies like Canada. Trump’s Commerce Department threw away a half century of precedent in finding that steel imports, including from the most-trusted U.S. allies, had caused “a weakening of our internal economy [that] may impair national security.”
Under current global trade rules, the United States will get away with it. Article XXI of the World Trade Organization (WTO) agreements states that countries are free to take actions they deem essential to their security interests. But WTO members have been cautious not to abuse that provision, recognizing the obvious danger. Now the United States—a country that has long championed the WTO system—will blow a giant loophole in the rules that other countries will eagerly walk through. China, India, Brazil and others are more than capable of inventing similar national security rationales for restricting imports.
The most encouraging thing that can be said is that, as the great Yogi Berra once put it, “it ain’t over till it’s over.” The president’s impromptu announcement will generate a huge pushback. The potential losses for the big steel-using manufacturers—including the Big Three auto companies, construction equipment firms like Caterpillar and John Deere and the construction sector more broadly—will have them all beating a path to the White House and Congress.
Trump’s more conventionally-minded aides, like National Economic Advisor Gary Cohn, may succeed in watering down the measures. The Pentagon has also warned about the “negative impact on our key allies.” Foreign governments, including the European Union and China, have said they will retaliate and target U.S. exporters. EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker called the measure “blatant intervention to protect U.S. domestic industry and not based on any national security justification.” Important Trump allies in Congress are in revolt—Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-UT) called the tariffs “a tax hike the American people don’t need and can’t afford.”
But even if the measures finally unveiled are more limited, great damage is being done. The United States built the architecture of the global economy in its image. The WTO was largely a U.S. creation. Now Donald Trump, in a fit of impulsiveness, may tear it all down."
Un párrafo lo condensa todo:
"It was once said that Britain lost its empire in a fit of absent-mindedness; the United States, it now appears, could lose its own in a fit of Donald Trump’s impulsiveness."
https://www.cfr.org/blog/donald-trump-s ... pbC5jb20S1
"Donald Trump, Steel Tariffs, and the Costs of Chaos" Blog Post by Edward Alden
"When President Nixon announced on August 15, 1971 that the United States would impose a 10 percent across-the-board tariff on imports—the most significant import restrictions since the 1930s—it followed an intense weekend of deliberations among his top officials at Camp David. Nixon’s economic brain trust spent three days carefully hammering out the details of the import restraints, and then signaled to the world that the president was prepared to lift them as soon as U.S. trading partners allowed their currencies to rise. The tariffs were removed four months later after a negotiated agreement.
When President Trump announced March 1, 2018 that the United States would impose 25 percent tariffs on imported steel and 10 percent tariffs on aluminum—the most significant import restrictions since 1971—it followed a morning of sheer chaos in the White House. The administration had announced the night before that leading steel and aluminum makers were invited to the White House, leading to speculation that new tariffs would be announced. But in the morning White House officials backed off, with the press office saying instead that it would only be a “listening session.” And then, with the cameras rolling and his own staff apparently unprepared, President Trump announced that the tariffs would be unveiled next week and would be kept in place “for a long period of time.”
It was once said that Britain lost its empire in a fit of absent-mindedness; the United States, it now appears, could lose its own in a fit of Donald Trump’s impulsiveness.
The precise contours of the new measures are still unknown. The administration may exempt still large suppliers like Canada and Brazil, and may exclude some products, though Trump told industry officials he does not want exemptions. There will be frenetic lobbying between now and the final announcement. And the negative market reaction—the Dow Jones fell about 600 points after the announcement—could stay the president’s hand.
But the issue is not simply the economic consequences. The president’s announcement yesterday was the clearest and most disturbing sign yet that he is quite prepared to take ill-considered actions that will chip away at the foundations of the global trading system.
The problems in the steel and aluminum industries are real—global overcapacity caused primarily by Chinese state subsidies to their producers. But the proposed measures are wildly indiscriminate, and will hit many countries, among them the closest U.S. allies and others that have played by the rules of the trading system.
The new tariffs rely on a provision of law—Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 which allows imports to be blocked on national security grounds—that has not been used successfully in decades. Previous administrations had interpreted the provision narrowly, requiring evidence that the military needs of the Pentagon could not be supplied by U.S. production or by close allies like Canada. Trump’s Commerce Department threw away a half century of precedent in finding that steel imports, including from the most-trusted U.S. allies, had caused “a weakening of our internal economy [that] may impair national security.”
Under current global trade rules, the United States will get away with it. Article XXI of the World Trade Organization (WTO) agreements states that countries are free to take actions they deem essential to their security interests. But WTO members have been cautious not to abuse that provision, recognizing the obvious danger. Now the United States—a country that has long championed the WTO system—will blow a giant loophole in the rules that other countries will eagerly walk through. China, India, Brazil and others are more than capable of inventing similar national security rationales for restricting imports.
The most encouraging thing that can be said is that, as the great Yogi Berra once put it, “it ain’t over till it’s over.” The president’s impromptu announcement will generate a huge pushback. The potential losses for the big steel-using manufacturers—including the Big Three auto companies, construction equipment firms like Caterpillar and John Deere and the construction sector more broadly—will have them all beating a path to the White House and Congress.
Trump’s more conventionally-minded aides, like National Economic Advisor Gary Cohn, may succeed in watering down the measures. The Pentagon has also warned about the “negative impact on our key allies.” Foreign governments, including the European Union and China, have said they will retaliate and target U.S. exporters. EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker called the measure “blatant intervention to protect U.S. domestic industry and not based on any national security justification.” Important Trump allies in Congress are in revolt—Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-UT) called the tariffs “a tax hike the American people don’t need and can’t afford.”
But even if the measures finally unveiled are more limited, great damage is being done. The United States built the architecture of the global economy in its image. The WTO was largely a U.S. creation. Now Donald Trump, in a fit of impulsiveness, may tear it all down."
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