Títulos Públicos
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El prospecto del canje dice "Si luego del vencimiento de la Invitación y hasta el 31 de diciembre de 2014, la Argentina efectúa voluntariamente una oferta de compra o canje o solicita consentimiento para modificar los Títulos Elegibles anteriores a 2005 que no fueron ofrecido o aceptados en virtud de la Invitación la Argentina adoptará todas las medidas necesarias para que cada tenedor de Bonos con Descuento o Bonos Par tenga tenga derecho, durante el período de 30 días calendario, como mínimo, siguiente al anuncio de esa oferta, a canjear cualquiera de los Bonos con Descuento o Bonos Par de ese tenedor por la contraprestación en efectivo o en especie recibida en relación con esa compra u oferta de canje o títulos."
Argentina necesita llegar al 31 de diciembre de este año para poder acordar con los holdouts. Tal vez estén negociando y con un acuerdo casi terminado, haciendo tiempo hasta el 1 de enero. Tal vez estén pateando la pelota para adelante porque no tienen nada. Si pudieramos saber que está pasando podríamos ganar mucho con esa información.
Argentina necesita llegar al 31 de diciembre de este año para poder acordar con los holdouts. Tal vez estén negociando y con un acuerdo casi terminado, haciendo tiempo hasta el 1 de enero. Tal vez estén pateando la pelota para adelante porque no tienen nada. Si pudieramos saber que está pasando podríamos ganar mucho con esa información.
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no sé si postearon esto:
Latin America Emerging Markets Research
Argentina: Sovereigns (expectedly) and holdouts (unexpectedly) kick the "pari passu" can down the road
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Recent developments in Argentina's pari passu litigation reduce the risk that 'pari passu' litigation represents for the performing sovereign bond market. This validates an environment where bond prices can grind higher.
The developments include:
· A surprise: Plaintiffs NML requested an extension to file their reply to Argentina's appeal to the US Supreme Court. If granted (which seems likely) holdout creditors—originally scheduled to file this week—will be filing on May 7th. This delay in filingwas unexpected and goes against the rapid filing.
· A confirmation:Mexican Finance Minister confirmed our expectations that other sovereigns will be accompanying France with amicus briefs in support of Argentina's appeal (actual filings due March 24). We have been expecting that at least 3 sovereigns (the third likely to be Brazil) could file amicus briefs (see Argentina: To file pari passu amicus briefs or not to file them — that is the question faced by other sovereigns, Morgan Markets, March 14, 2014).
Both are good news for performing bondholders.
The first development (in conjunction with the fact that Argentina has 14 days after plaintiffs response to file a reply— and could also ask for an extension) suggests that the potential Supreme Court conference for deciding whether to take the case or not is likely to run up against summer recess period pushing the process out to the 2H of the year.
The second development raises awareness of cross-border implications of the pari passu case. This improves the likelihood that when the Supreme Court does convene, it opts to ask the Solicitor General for the view of the US government (given the foreign policy implications).
The request for the Solicitor General's view by the Supreme Court has been our longstanding base case scenario. Key to note is that if asked, the SG does not face any deadline to file a response.
The scenario where the litigation—and hence, the market's concern for risk of technical default associated with it—is pushed into 2015 is looking highly probable.
The reason why holdouts are embracing "delay tactics" (instead of Argentina) is unknown. But will allow markets to entertain the prospects of a negotiated solution. We are skeptical, however, because we view negotiations as a last resort option for Argentina and the persistence of the legal battle offers Argentina an alternative means to win the case.
abrazo
salva +6
Latin America Emerging Markets Research
Argentina: Sovereigns (expectedly) and holdouts (unexpectedly) kick the "pari passu" can down the road
If this email does not display properly, click here to view. Visit J.P. Morgan Markets for more market-leading research and financial solutions across the full trade and investment lifecycle.
Recent developments in Argentina's pari passu litigation reduce the risk that 'pari passu' litigation represents for the performing sovereign bond market. This validates an environment where bond prices can grind higher.
The developments include:
· A surprise: Plaintiffs NML requested an extension to file their reply to Argentina's appeal to the US Supreme Court. If granted (which seems likely) holdout creditors—originally scheduled to file this week—will be filing on May 7th. This delay in filingwas unexpected and goes against the rapid filing.
· A confirmation:Mexican Finance Minister confirmed our expectations that other sovereigns will be accompanying France with amicus briefs in support of Argentina's appeal (actual filings due March 24). We have been expecting that at least 3 sovereigns (the third likely to be Brazil) could file amicus briefs (see Argentina: To file pari passu amicus briefs or not to file them — that is the question faced by other sovereigns, Morgan Markets, March 14, 2014).
Both are good news for performing bondholders.
The first development (in conjunction with the fact that Argentina has 14 days after plaintiffs response to file a reply— and could also ask for an extension) suggests that the potential Supreme Court conference for deciding whether to take the case or not is likely to run up against summer recess period pushing the process out to the 2H of the year.
The second development raises awareness of cross-border implications of the pari passu case. This improves the likelihood that when the Supreme Court does convene, it opts to ask the Solicitor General for the view of the US government (given the foreign policy implications).
The request for the Solicitor General's view by the Supreme Court has been our longstanding base case scenario. Key to note is that if asked, the SG does not face any deadline to file a response.
The scenario where the litigation—and hence, the market's concern for risk of technical default associated with it—is pushed into 2015 is looking highly probable.
The reason why holdouts are embracing "delay tactics" (instead of Argentina) is unknown. But will allow markets to entertain the prospects of a negotiated solution. We are skeptical, however, because we view negotiations as a last resort option for Argentina and the persistence of the legal battle offers Argentina an alternative means to win the case.
abrazo
salva +6

Re: Títulos Públicos
fodt escribió:La suma de los bonos en dolares (aa17 y ro15) es por el próximo pago de renta o responde más al movimiento del dolar de la semana? Después del pago de renta, bajarán los bonos?
Siempre despues de un pago de renta ,los bonos bajan en forma proporcional a la renta pagada.Lo mismo sucede cuando una accion paga dividendos.
Pero como es una muy buena alternatuva de inversion en este momento,pienso que lo que pueda caer luego del pago, lo recuperara rapidamente.
Salvo que baje el CCL o baje el blue ,pero creo que estos ya alcanzaron un piso.
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para mi sube el dolar no solo en argentina sino en todos los paises
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pa mi gusto el aa17 esta regalado , y si baja mas todavia si llevas hasta el final
fodt escribió:La suma de los bonos en dolares (aa17 y ro15) es por el próximo pago de renta o responde más al movimiento del dolar de la semana? Después del pago de renta, bajarán los bonos?
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empome escribió:el ro15 va a seguir subiendo
y que otra cosa màs¿?
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el ro15 va a seguir subiendo
Re: Títulos Públicos
La suma de los bonos en dolares (aa17 y ro15) es por el próximo pago de renta o responde más al movimiento del dolar de la semana? Después del pago de renta, bajarán los bonos?
Re: Títulos Públicos
Yo que el actual administracion revisaria los numeros que vn a dar en Marzo...
Pignanelli acusó al Gobierno de seguir mintiendo con el Indec
http://www.laprensa.com.ar/420893-Pigna ... .note.aspx
Pignanelli acusó al Gobierno de seguir mintiendo con el Indec
http://www.laprensa.com.ar/420893-Pigna ... .note.aspx
Re: Títulos Públicos
una pregunta, que dia empieza a cotizar el RO15 a 72 hs ex cupon ?
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muy manejado y caro para vencer en 2018
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turco40760 escribió:¿como ven los AN18? para los próximos meses, gracias
Poco liquido y caro.
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¿como ven los AN18? para los próximos meses, gracias
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È vero....(Es verdad) . Gracias AKD .-
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Alfredo 2011 escribió:Resero.
Cu si fa’ affari so’ ... campa cent’anni, è O pisci ru mari è ristinàtu cu si l'havi a mangiari..... Nun tu scudari .
Arrivederci
n_iuvara escribió: Estimado, tengo curiosidad, ud. no esta hablando Italiano, esta hablando dialecto... Cual es?
Abrazo
Siciliano.
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