TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
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para Alfredo y tordo, y para todos,
entre14,15 y 14,25 esta el 38,2 de baja de Fibo desde la suba de los 8,4 saludos.
entre14,15 y 14,25 esta el 38,2 de baja de Fibo desde la suba de los 8,4 saludos.
Re: TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
Ramiro_Lucas escribió:Dije que en 14 volvía a entrar pero creo que no lo voy a hacer. Primero que entre en default Grecia, despues vemos..
Grecia ya está en default porque con el paquete de ayuda que se aprobó en julio conllevaba una quita del 21% de la deuda.
No entiendo cual es el default que esperan.
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DarGomJUNIN escribió:![]()
Hoy el TVPP tendría que hacer piso en 14,15 salvo que sigan los fondos rifando a cualquier precio que le oferten.![]()
Darío de Junín
ok. alguien puede confirmar esto, ...¿? siguen saliendo ...¿?
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guarda q el SPX esta lateralizando hace tiempo, no baja los problematicos somos nosotros.
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DarGomJUNIN
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Re: TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
Hoy el TVPP tendría que hacer piso en 14,15 salvo que sigan los fondos rifando a cualquier precio que le oferten.
Darío de Junín
Re: TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
Esto lo publico cristian en algún otro foro:
Articulo del Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... 13869.html
Sky-High Yields Draw Investors To Argentina GDP Warrants
--GDP warrants offer some of the highest yields among emerging-market bonds after recent declines
--Warrant prices have plunged with other Argentine assets in broader market selloff
--Volatility means GDP warrants aren't for the faint of heart
By Shane Romig
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
BUENOS AIRES (Dow Jones)--Argentina's GDP warrants, a novel fixed-income security tied to the country's economic growth, are back on investors' radar following recent price declines and the prospect of hefty payouts in coming years.
"They provide a lot of value. You are buying the [chance to gain from] future Argentine growth...for free," Barclays Capital economist Sebastian Vargas said in an emailed response to questions.
The warrants offer "one of the highest yields in emerging market external debt today," BofA Merrill Lynch said in a report.
The 2035 dollar-denominated GDP warrant is trading at a discount of around 40% to its theoretical value, yielding about 27.8%, according to BofA Merrill Lynch.
The warrants haven't been immune to the recent selloff in emerging-markets assets as investors fret that a recession or default in developed countries would have dire implications for fast-growing emerging-market nations like Argentina.
Friday was no exception, with the 2035 dollar warrants closing 2.9% lower at ARS66.00 ($15.70) during a session marked by broad declines in global markets. The warrants are up nearly 39% on the year, but have fallen 19.5% from their 52-week high of ARS81.95 on Aug. 3.
The warrants were initially tacked on as "sweeteners" to the country's $100 billion global debt restructuring offer at the end of 2004.
Payouts are triggered when inflation-adjusted GDP growth exceeds 3.2%. The warrants--denominated in euros, pesos and dollars--payout until 2035, or until payments reach 48% of the face value outstanding.
"It's reasonable to think that Argentina's long-term growth is greater than [3.2%]," Vargas said.
The government expects the economy to expand about 8% this year, and the 2012 budget bill submitted to Congress forecasts 5.1% growth next year.
Payments are made each December based on the reported GDP growth of the previous year. In the budget bill, the government forecast GDP warrant payments of ARS15.3 billion next year and ARS18.9 billion in 2013.
According to BofA Merrill Lynch calculations, the payout on the U.S. dollar warrant this December will be 29% of its current price, rising to 68% with the 2012 payout, 86% in 2013, and 107% by 2014. After that, future payouts are all gravy.
But investors tempted by those juicy payouts need to be prepared for a wild ride as price movements tend to be greater than those of benchmark indexes, analysts warn.
"When the S&P [500 equity index] goes down, these go down sharply as well," Vargas said. "But if you can stomach the volatility of these securities, I do believe that they provide a lot of value."
Despite signs of a slowing global economy, Barclays still expects Argentina's economy to grow 4.4% next year, enough to trigger a payout in 2013.
Articulo del Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... 13869.html
Sky-High Yields Draw Investors To Argentina GDP Warrants
--GDP warrants offer some of the highest yields among emerging-market bonds after recent declines
--Warrant prices have plunged with other Argentine assets in broader market selloff
--Volatility means GDP warrants aren't for the faint of heart
By Shane Romig
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
BUENOS AIRES (Dow Jones)--Argentina's GDP warrants, a novel fixed-income security tied to the country's economic growth, are back on investors' radar following recent price declines and the prospect of hefty payouts in coming years.
"They provide a lot of value. You are buying the [chance to gain from] future Argentine growth...for free," Barclays Capital economist Sebastian Vargas said in an emailed response to questions.
The warrants offer "one of the highest yields in emerging market external debt today," BofA Merrill Lynch said in a report.
The 2035 dollar-denominated GDP warrant is trading at a discount of around 40% to its theoretical value, yielding about 27.8%, according to BofA Merrill Lynch.
The warrants haven't been immune to the recent selloff in emerging-markets assets as investors fret that a recession or default in developed countries would have dire implications for fast-growing emerging-market nations like Argentina.
Friday was no exception, with the 2035 dollar warrants closing 2.9% lower at ARS66.00 ($15.70) during a session marked by broad declines in global markets. The warrants are up nearly 39% on the year, but have fallen 19.5% from their 52-week high of ARS81.95 on Aug. 3.
The warrants were initially tacked on as "sweeteners" to the country's $100 billion global debt restructuring offer at the end of 2004.
Payouts are triggered when inflation-adjusted GDP growth exceeds 3.2%. The warrants--denominated in euros, pesos and dollars--payout until 2035, or until payments reach 48% of the face value outstanding.
"It's reasonable to think that Argentina's long-term growth is greater than [3.2%]," Vargas said.
The government expects the economy to expand about 8% this year, and the 2012 budget bill submitted to Congress forecasts 5.1% growth next year.
Payments are made each December based on the reported GDP growth of the previous year. In the budget bill, the government forecast GDP warrant payments of ARS15.3 billion next year and ARS18.9 billion in 2013.
According to BofA Merrill Lynch calculations, the payout on the U.S. dollar warrant this December will be 29% of its current price, rising to 68% with the 2012 payout, 86% in 2013, and 107% by 2014. After that, future payouts are all gravy.
But investors tempted by those juicy payouts need to be prepared for a wild ride as price movements tend to be greater than those of benchmark indexes, analysts warn.
"When the S&P [500 equity index] goes down, these go down sharply as well," Vargas said. "But if you can stomach the volatility of these securities, I do believe that they provide a lot of value."
Despite signs of a slowing global economy, Barclays still expects Argentina's economy to grow 4.4% next year, enough to trigger a payout in 2013.
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Dije que en 14 volvía a entrar pero creo que no lo voy a hacer. Primero que entre en default Grecia, despues vemos..
Re: TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
atrevido escribió:Krishnamutti, Ojai
EL peligro para el individuo es llegar a una conclusion satisfactoria.Ese es el peligro que han enseñado miles y miles de años como una virtud a lograr.
Uno debe ir de discernimiento en discernimiento y debe ser capaz de dejar cualquier conclusion , por mas satisfactoria que sea.
LLegar a una conclusion es de una mente embotada, estupida.Ir de discernimiento en discernimiento es tener Inteligencia, inteligencia que no esta atrapada en el habito ni es una conclusion determinada
Discierno contigo en este momento ... por ejemplo ..esta bien asi ???
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alvarez123
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ELRUSITO escribió:verde en un rato.
Vamos, vamos que se pone verde...
Re: TVPP TVPA TVPY Cupones Vinculados al PBI
pagando a 14,11 no voy a reinvertir, meto toda la carne en el asador ahora. es como pagar 8 pesos.
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AMB no entendí que quisiste decir.
Solo estoy pensando que a los bancos locales se les abre una gran oportunidad a estos precios del tvpp. Consiguen rendimiento similares a las lebacs con una yapa impresionante de 25 pesos de facial. Algo increíble.
Solo estoy pensando que a los bancos locales se les abre una gran oportunidad a estos precios del tvpp. Consiguen rendimiento similares a las lebacs con una yapa impresionante de 25 pesos de facial. Algo increíble.
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