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How to Destroy an Economy
By Andrés Cardenal - July 8, 2012 | Tickers: BMA, BFR, GGAL, YPF | 0 Comments
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When God was creating the different countries, he stopped for a minute to think about fairness. And then he said: “This country has all the advantages, abundant natural resources, talented people, no religious or racial conflicts and no natural disasters either. That's too much, let's put some Argentinean politicians there”
That old Argentinean joke is more representative about the country's economic reality now more than ever. Over the last ten years, most Latin American countries have capitalized the bull market in commodity prices to achieve unprecedented growth rates and record levels of foreign investment. Venezuela has been one notable exception, and the Argentinean government is sadly going down the same road instead of following the footsteps of more rational leaders like its neighbors in Brazil, Chile or Uruguay.
Due to rapidly increasing fiscal spending, big monetary emissions, interest rates below inflation levels and a complete lack of trust from local and foreign investors, Argentina has experienced inflation rates of around 25 percent over recent years. During the same period the government has kept the exchange rate artificially strong to boost consumption.
Under such conditions, the country's goods have become much more expensive in the global markets, and local exporters have difficulty competing. Imports have been going up three times as fast as GDP per year and, making matters worse, Argentina has become a net importer of oil and gas due to an inconsistent and erratic energy policy coupled with a strong rise in internal consumption of fuel at low prices fixed by the government.
The expropriation of the biggest local oil company, YPF (NYSE: YPF), from Spain’s Repsol is an attempt to revert the decline of energy production in Argentinean soil, but investors have considerable reasons to feel concerned about the value of their investments. Investors in YPF are facing enormous uncertainties about the company's future.
The Argentinean government has appointed Miguel Galluccio as the company's new CEO. Galluccio is a respected engineer coming from professional circles, and he has made some comments regarding possible alliances with international energy players in order to increase capital spending and production, which may seem like a rational and market-friendly idea.
But everybody knows that Gallucio is under strict political surveillance, and there are some very important questions that need to be answered before even considering an investment in YPF. Will international investors trust the Argentinean government after the expropriation? Does the government consider investors' profitability as a desirable achievement? Will the country's energy policy – like price regulations -- be modified so YPF can become a more viable business? Will YPF even remain as a listed company?
Judging by what the Argentinean government has done lately, there are no real reasons to feel optimistic about investing in YPF or any other company with high exposure to Argentina. Shares of local banks were falling deeply last week, as news about very interventionist regulations created an extra source of concerns for investors in this sector.
The new rules mandate the biggest Argentinean banks to lend an amount equivalent to 5% of deposits to different companies for investment in productive capital expenditures like machinery or new buildings. These loans will carry a maximum interest rate of 15% annually, which is much lower than current inflation rates in the zone of 25%.
The government is telling banks how they should lend their money, and has also decided they should charge negative real interest rates for those loans. Needless to say, that's not a very market-friendly approach, and it shows a complete lack of regard for investors in these banks and their rights to have their capital managed in an efficient way.
There are some unbelievably low valuations in Argentinean banks. Banco Frances (NYSE: BFR) carries a P/E ratio of 2.5, while Banco Macro (NYSE: BMA) has a P/E ratio of 2.6 and Grupo Financiero Galicia (NASDAQ: GGAL) trades at 2.1 times earnings. These are solid companies with strong financial positions, but as long as politicians keep forcing them to make really unintelligent decisions from a business perspective, investors should stay away from them.
As could be expected, years of irrational economic policies have finally become a stronger force than rising commodity prices, and Argentina seems to be heading to a severe slowdown, or even a full blown recession. If the government responds with more absurd ideas, things could become even worse for the country and its people.
There are some extremely cheap companies in Argentina, and sooner or later the country may have a more reasonable political leadership that should produce an outstanding buying opportunity in these stocks. At this time, however, watching from the sidelines is a much better idea.
El resumen es que; "si el gobierno sigue con màs ideas absurdas, las cosas iràn peor, para el paìs y su gente", una triste realidad que los incapaces y chorros que gobiernan no quieren ver.
Queda claro que no le importa un pito el paìs y su gente, gobiernan para la polìtica de rapiña, conquistando adherentes con la plata de todos, pero destruyendo de a poco la economìa, y desmejorando la calidad de vida. Despuès vendràn los ajustes, que sin duda seràn penosos, aunque ya le estàn descontando a la gente con los impuestos parte de su salario.
How to Destroy an Economy
By Andrés Cardenal - July 8, 2012 | Tickers: BMA, BFR, GGAL, YPF | 0 Comments
Share on emailEmailShare on google_plusonePrintAndrés is a member of The Motley Fool Blog Network -- entries represent the personal opinions of our bloggers and are not formally edited.
When God was creating the different countries, he stopped for a minute to think about fairness. And then he said: “This country has all the advantages, abundant natural resources, talented people, no religious or racial conflicts and no natural disasters either. That's too much, let's put some Argentinean politicians there”
That old Argentinean joke is more representative about the country's economic reality now more than ever. Over the last ten years, most Latin American countries have capitalized the bull market in commodity prices to achieve unprecedented growth rates and record levels of foreign investment. Venezuela has been one notable exception, and the Argentinean government is sadly going down the same road instead of following the footsteps of more rational leaders like its neighbors in Brazil, Chile or Uruguay.
Due to rapidly increasing fiscal spending, big monetary emissions, interest rates below inflation levels and a complete lack of trust from local and foreign investors, Argentina has experienced inflation rates of around 25 percent over recent years. During the same period the government has kept the exchange rate artificially strong to boost consumption.
Under such conditions, the country's goods have become much more expensive in the global markets, and local exporters have difficulty competing. Imports have been going up three times as fast as GDP per year and, making matters worse, Argentina has become a net importer of oil and gas due to an inconsistent and erratic energy policy coupled with a strong rise in internal consumption of fuel at low prices fixed by the government.
The expropriation of the biggest local oil company, YPF (NYSE: YPF), from Spain’s Repsol is an attempt to revert the decline of energy production in Argentinean soil, but investors have considerable reasons to feel concerned about the value of their investments. Investors in YPF are facing enormous uncertainties about the company's future.
The Argentinean government has appointed Miguel Galluccio as the company's new CEO. Galluccio is a respected engineer coming from professional circles, and he has made some comments regarding possible alliances with international energy players in order to increase capital spending and production, which may seem like a rational and market-friendly idea.
But everybody knows that Gallucio is under strict political surveillance, and there are some very important questions that need to be answered before even considering an investment in YPF. Will international investors trust the Argentinean government after the expropriation? Does the government consider investors' profitability as a desirable achievement? Will the country's energy policy – like price regulations -- be modified so YPF can become a more viable business? Will YPF even remain as a listed company?
Judging by what the Argentinean government has done lately, there are no real reasons to feel optimistic about investing in YPF or any other company with high exposure to Argentina. Shares of local banks were falling deeply last week, as news about very interventionist regulations created an extra source of concerns for investors in this sector.
The new rules mandate the biggest Argentinean banks to lend an amount equivalent to 5% of deposits to different companies for investment in productive capital expenditures like machinery or new buildings. These loans will carry a maximum interest rate of 15% annually, which is much lower than current inflation rates in the zone of 25%.
The government is telling banks how they should lend their money, and has also decided they should charge negative real interest rates for those loans. Needless to say, that's not a very market-friendly approach, and it shows a complete lack of regard for investors in these banks and their rights to have their capital managed in an efficient way.
There are some unbelievably low valuations in Argentinean banks. Banco Frances (NYSE: BFR) carries a P/E ratio of 2.5, while Banco Macro (NYSE: BMA) has a P/E ratio of 2.6 and Grupo Financiero Galicia (NASDAQ: GGAL) trades at 2.1 times earnings. These are solid companies with strong financial positions, but as long as politicians keep forcing them to make really unintelligent decisions from a business perspective, investors should stay away from them.
As could be expected, years of irrational economic policies have finally become a stronger force than rising commodity prices, and Argentina seems to be heading to a severe slowdown, or even a full blown recession. If the government responds with more absurd ideas, things could become even worse for the country and its people.
There are some extremely cheap companies in Argentina, and sooner or later the country may have a more reasonable political leadership that should produce an outstanding buying opportunity in these stocks. At this time, however, watching from the sidelines is a much better idea.
El resumen es que; "si el gobierno sigue con màs ideas absurdas, las cosas iràn peor, para el paìs y su gente", una triste realidad que los incapaces y chorros que gobiernan no quieren ver.
Queda claro que no le importa un pito el paìs y su gente, gobiernan para la polìtica de rapiña, conquistando adherentes con la plata de todos, pero destruyendo de a poco la economìa, y desmejorando la calidad de vida. Despuès vendràn los ajustes, que sin duda seràn penosos, aunque ya le estàn descontando a la gente con los impuestos parte de su salario.
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Galaico escribió:Feliz Día de la Patria para Todos !!!
Igualmente Galaico, làstima que tengamos a unos chorros, e incapaces, destruyendo al paìs.
Cada dìa que pasa es para peor, pero se hacen los otarios, la realidad sino cambian les va a pasar la factura, y èsta va a venir pesada.
Noticias de actualidad:
1)Siguen los problemas con la carne; en dos años cerraron sus puertas 120 de las 550 plantas que existìan en el paìs, se destruyeron 13.200 empleos sobre un total de 32.000. El stock ganadero cahò un 17 o/o entre 2008/2010. La famosa carne argentina està herida de muerte y junto con ella gran parte del corazòn ganadero del paìs.
2)Papas; Tanto Farm Frites como McCain, dos empresas que producen y comercializan papas fritas y prefritas, etàn perjudicadas por el cierre del mercado brasileño, en represalìa por el corte de las importaciones de sus productos desde la Argentina.
3)Leche, sino mejora el precio del productor de 1.50 el litro (al contrario se lo quieren bajar), y hace un año que vienen con el precio congelado, se seguiràn cerrando tambos, -hay tambos que se estàn mudando a Uruguay-, y los productores se estàn pasando al cereal, que le mejoren la situaciòn.
Como vemos Terminator sigue a todo vapor, al mando de Cachabacha, destruyendo todo lo que tocan, (salvo sus ingresos personales).
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Dijo algo de la F1 en Mar del Plata ?
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Scili cantaba la de pimpinela un duo que a madame no le gusta ,............
A ELLA , A ELLA ,
QUE VENGA ,
QUE TENGA EL VALOR
Y ME HABLE DE FRENTE .............
Piñon , lo botoneó y gran hilombo
A ELLA , A ELLA ,
QUE VENGA ,
QUE TENGA EL VALOR
Y ME HABLE DE FRENTE .............
Piñon , lo botoneó y gran hilombo
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Al termino de la rueda de chicago, el cierre del valor de los granos es el siguiente:
La soja termino con un aumento del 2,48% ,el trigo un 2,77% y el maiz termino con una suba del 5,16%.
Durante la rueda estos valores llegaron a estar mas arriba ,en tanto los ADR siguen demasiados castigados.Para mi ya es demasiado.
Saludos.
La soja termino con un aumento del 2,48% ,el trigo un 2,77% y el maiz termino con una suba del 5,16%.
Durante la rueda estos valores llegaron a estar mas arriba ,en tanto los ADR siguen demasiados castigados.Para mi ya es demasiado.
Saludos.
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kilobat escribió:Economía y política
Cristina: “Es imposible no recibir los coletazos de la crisis”
En un año en el que se prevé el ingreso del país a un período de estancamiento, la Presidenta relativizó el aumento del PBI en sí mismo, si no va acompañado de “igualdad y equidad”. En su discurso por el Día de la Independencia, la primera mandataria atribuyó la situación económica del mundo a que “han timbeado durante nueve años en las centrales del poder miles de millones que no se saben si existen”. ver más
Pero comoooo??????????? no estabamos blindados?????????
FALACIAS DEL MODELO :Nunca va a ver igualdad y equidad , ya que es imposible que cada ciudadano tenga un hotel en calafate y pueda robar todos los días con impunidad .
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Estoy esperando la publicación del discurso en http://www.casarosada.gov.ar/discursos para contar cuántas veces la Sra, Presidenta nombró a Francisca Bazán de Laguna, a Carlos María de Alvear, a Juan Martín de Pueyrredón, Francisco Narciso de Laprida, a Mariano Boedo, a José Mariano Serrano y a Juan José Paso....
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No era que el que demostraba de donde provenian los fondos podia comprar dolares sin problemas??????
No era que no les interesaba el destino que uno le diera a esos dolares????? y ahora se van a fijar si viajaste o no????
Mas controlan....menoscontrolan....es la regla, a menos que pongan a todos los desocupados y beneficiarios de planes a controlar, en definitiva esto es un DESCONTROL
No era que no les interesaba el destino que uno le diera a esos dolares????? y ahora se van a fijar si viajaste o no????
Mas controlan....menoscontrolan....es la regla, a menos que pongan a todos los desocupados y beneficiarios de planes a controlar, en definitiva esto es un DESCONTROL
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"Claramente ha aparecido la verdad desnuda e implacable: han timbeado durante nueve años en las centrales del poder miles de millones que no se saben si existen", señaló.
O empezó nomas la historia cuando los K llegaron al poder o el subconsciente la traicionó y está hablando de ellos mismos.
Avanti morocha..
O empezó nomas la historia cuando los K llegaron al poder o el subconsciente la traicionó y está hablando de ellos mismos.
Avanti morocha..
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Economía y política
Cristina: “Es imposible no recibir los coletazos de la crisis”
En un año en el que se prevé el ingreso del país a un período de estancamiento, la Presidenta relativizó el aumento del PBI en sí mismo, si no va acompañado de “igualdad y equidad”. En su discurso por el Día de la Independencia, la primera mandataria atribuyó la situación económica del mundo a que “han timbeado durante nueve años en las centrales del poder miles de millones que no se saben si existen”. ver más
Pero comoooo??????????? no estabamos blindados?????????
Cristina: “Es imposible no recibir los coletazos de la crisis”
En un año en el que se prevé el ingreso del país a un período de estancamiento, la Presidenta relativizó el aumento del PBI en sí mismo, si no va acompañado de “igualdad y equidad”. En su discurso por el Día de la Independencia, la primera mandataria atribuyó la situación económica del mundo a que “han timbeado durante nueve años en las centrales del poder miles de millones que no se saben si existen”. ver más
Pero comoooo??????????? no estabamos blindados?????????
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[quote="el_porteño"
Nunca hay que olvidarse de la PATRIA HERMOSA QUE TENEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Lastima que Milonga, Pascua y el resto de los cyberñoquis con el liderazgo del modelo nazi-onal socialista de kirchtler la destruyeron!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastima que Milonga, Pascua y el resto de los cyberñoquis con el liderazgo del modelo nazi-onal socialista de kirchtler la destruyeron!!!!!!!!!!!
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bullbear escribió: Tambien dicen que los cyberñoquis hoy estan mirando quien aplaude y quien no, sino le aplican la gran Scioli !!! de ahi la motivación !!
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se cobra doble!!!
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