CRES Cresud
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Nico_DLR
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Re: CRES Cresud
cada vez que quiero entrar me corren la venta para arriba... estoy corriendo el bondi desde ayer 
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trenquelauquen
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Re: CRES Cresud
Yops escribió:campito
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Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
A llorar al campito
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Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud
perdón por la repetición .. es para evitar confusiones ..
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Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud
campito
Comments (136) |+ Follow |Send Message
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
Comments (136) |+ Follow |Send Message
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
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Yops
- Mensajes: 18202
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Re: CRES Cresud
yo no soy ese .. ¿quien será?
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scblason
- Mensajes: 315
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Re: CRES Cresud
Yops escribió:scblason respondele dale ...
jajaja, que tal campito, todo bien?
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Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud
scblason respondele dale ...
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Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud
ese es un tal campito .. 
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diamante_loco_
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- Registrado: Vie Ene 25, 2013 12:29 am
Re: CRES Cresud
fabio escribió:deja que suban las dos, cual es el problema
Obviamente lo digo en joda, estimado...
que suba todo a tasa agrometalera-mirgoriana en sus momentos dorados si de mi dependiera...
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scblason
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Re: CRES Cresud
Estaria lindo responderle a este comentario en SA. Claramente hay desconfianza todavia con respecto al management alla afuera:
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
Cheers
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
Cheers
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Yops
- Mensajes: 18202
- Registrado: Mar May 21, 2013 8:35 pm
Re: CRES Cresud
..los foristas negativos se vuelven positivos en las subas .. 
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fabio
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Re: CRES Cresud
diamante_loco_ escribió:Dale Cresud, que hay que ubicar a cachetazos a la atrevida y maleducada de Agrometal...
deja que suban las dos, cual es el problema
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LogNormal
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Re: CRES Cresud
bien cresud, y esto recién empieza 
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diamante_loco_
- Mensajes: 1329
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Re: CRES Cresud
Dale Cresud, que hay que ubicar a cachetazos a la atrevida y maleducada de Agrometal... 
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Yops
- Mensajes: 18202
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Re: CRES Cresud
Ahhh el día De la mujer .. 
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