CRES Cresud
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DireStraits
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Re: CRES Cresud
Por la redacción del texto seguro que británico no es 
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Copernicus79
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Finn escribió:Es argento el que planteo estas dudas? Digo por la pregunta que hace de las tierras de Salta...si no es argento medio raro que saque a relucir ese dato.
No lo sé, pero cada vez es más difícil encontrar un rincón del mundo sin un argentino en él!
Tal vez tiene familiares y/o amigos y por eso se interesa en una empresa de acá.
Esperemos ver más comentarios, al menos demuestra un interés.
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Finn
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Copernicus79 escribió:Lo mismo que le planteamos acá tanto tiempo a Herrx, ya tiene todo listo para hacer copy/paste con las respuestas, lo interesante va a ser leer la devolución y ver cómo piensan allá.
Es argento el que planteo estas dudas? Digo por la pregunta que hace de las tierras de Salta...si no es argento medio raro que saque a relucir ese dato.
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Copernicus79
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scblason escribió:Estaria lindo responderle a este comentario en SA. Claramente hay desconfianza todavia con respecto al management alla afuera:
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
Cheers
Lo mismo que le planteamos acá tanto tiempo a Herrx, ya tiene todo listo para hacer copy/paste con las respuestas, lo interesante va a ser leer la devolución y ver cómo piensan allá.
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Apolo1102.2
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Disfruten la suba, sin gastar y sin rencor.
Que falta mucho recorrido aún.
Que falta mucho recorrido aún.
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Yops
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El pintor ,mongo ,y algún otro profesional
postearán algo en alguna corrección...; mientras tanto "la ñata contra el vidrio " como bien dijeron los que más saben . 
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Omega
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me cruce con alguien que me dijo que viene del futuro y el adr hoy cierra 19.57
veremos si me mintieron como a una colegiala o no
veremos si me mintieron como a una colegiala o no
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Polaco
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Javierdib escribió:venite a zona sur que te pago la coca pola
Estoy lejos de Rosario...
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mstancati
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Nico_DLR escribió:cada vez que quiero entrar me corren la venta para arriba... estoy corriendo el bondi desde ayer
Tenias varios dias para pagar para abajo, ahora si quiere, suba la apuesta!!
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Nico_DLR
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cada vez que quiero entrar me corren la venta para arriba... estoy corriendo el bondi desde ayer 
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trenquelauquen
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Yops escribió:campito
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Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
A llorar al campito
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Yops
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perdón por la repetición .. es para evitar confusiones ..
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Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud
campito
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Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
Comments (136) |+ Follow |Send Message
Hi BienVista,
It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:
Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.
Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders
A few hints in that regard:
From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.
Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.
Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS
Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.
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