CRES Cresud

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Copernicus79
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Mensajepor Copernicus79 » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:28 pm

Finn escribió:Es argento el que planteo estas dudas? Digo por la pregunta que hace de las tierras de Salta...si no es argento medio raro que saque a relucir ese dato.

No lo sé, pero cada vez es más difícil encontrar un rincón del mundo sin un argentino en él!
Tal vez tiene familiares y/o amigos y por eso se interesa en una empresa de acá.
Esperemos ver más comentarios, al menos demuestra un interés.

Finn
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Finn » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:24 pm

Copernicus79 escribió:Lo mismo que le planteamos acá tanto tiempo a Herrx, ya tiene todo listo para hacer copy/paste con las respuestas, lo interesante va a ser leer la devolución y ver cómo piensan allá.


Es argento el que planteo estas dudas? Digo por la pregunta que hace de las tierras de Salta...si no es argento medio raro que saque a relucir ese dato.

Copernicus79
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Mensajepor Copernicus79 » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:13 pm

scblason escribió:Estaria lindo responderle a este comentario en SA. Claramente hay desconfianza todavia con respecto al management alla afuera:

Hi BienVista,

It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:

Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.

Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders

A few hints in that regard:

From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.

Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.

Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS

Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.

Cheers

Lo mismo que le planteamos acá tanto tiempo a Herrx, ya tiene todo listo para hacer copy/paste con las respuestas, lo interesante va a ser leer la devolución y ver cómo piensan allá.

Apolo1102.2
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Mensajepor Apolo1102.2 » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:11 pm

Disfruten la suba, sin gastar y sin rencor.

Que falta mucho recorrido aún.

Yops
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Mensajepor Yops » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:05 pm

El pintor ,mongo ,y algún otro profesional :mrgreen: postearán algo en alguna corrección...; mientras tanto "la ñata contra el vidrio " como bien dijeron los que más saben . :mrgreen:

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Mensajepor Athila » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:04 pm

19.52 +0.67 3.54% :arriba:

Omega
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Omega » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:04 pm

me cruce con alguien que me dijo que viene del futuro y el adr hoy cierra 19.57

veremos si me mintieron como a una colegiala o no :oops:

elpipa
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Mensajepor elpipa » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:04 pm

19,52

Polaco
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Mensajepor Polaco » Mié Mar 08, 2017 5:02 pm

Javierdib escribió:venite a zona sur que te pago la coca pola

Estoy lejos de Rosario...
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

mstancati
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Mensajepor mstancati » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:56 pm

Nico_DLR escribió:cada vez que quiero entrar me corren la venta para arriba... estoy corriendo el bondi desde ayer :mrgreen:

Tenias varios dias para pagar para abajo, ahora si quiere, suba la apuesta!!

Nico_DLR
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Nico_DLR » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:55 pm

cada vez que quiero entrar me corren la venta para arriba... estoy corriendo el bondi desde ayer :mrgreen:

trenquelauquen
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor trenquelauquen » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:54 pm

Yops escribió:campito
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Hi BienVista,

It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:

Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.

Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders

A few hints in that regard:

From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.

Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.

Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS

Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.



A llorar al campito

Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Yops » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:51 pm

perdón por la repetición .. es para evitar confusiones ..

Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Yops » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:49 pm

campito
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Hi BienVista,

It looks like yu have put long hours on researching this group of companies:

Just a word of caution. You can´t blame Argentina for not delivering the goods. Truth is that management responsibility is to do that. And the fact is that the management does not have a good track record in delivering great returns for the minority shareholders.

Do not take my word for it. Just check their past track record and you will find plenty of evidence of not taking care of their minority shareholders

A few hints in that regard:

From the land "reserve" in Salta about half of the land of the group, check who was did they buy it from.

Back in 2001, CRESY and IRS were not related except from management. check why did CRESY bought IRS while it was loaded in cash.

Check the dismal return on equity of the group and that will explain why the share price went nowhere during the last 20 years and not the political turmoil in Argentina. In the same period you will find a handful of Argentine stocks that did so much better than CRESY and IRS

Check the opacity in related party transactions and management fee schemes that dent significantly the return on the minority shareholders.

Yops
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Re: CRES Cresud

Mensajepor Yops » Mié Mar 08, 2017 4:48 pm

yo no soy ese .. ¿quien será?


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