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Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 3:26 pm
por BLACK HORSE
Recién vendí bac...también 95% liquido, el resto uvxy...para despuntar el vicio...

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 3:22 pm
por her_unlimited
dando señal de venta = 100% líquido

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 3:12 pm
por jdt
hablo el piedra y se volo todo, asi no se pùede

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 2:36 pm
por bullbear
Europa cerró rojo
Internals Un poco Bear
Bonds Up
Or Sideways or Bear IMHO

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 2:33 pm
por el_sobrino
SOLO RAJENSI QUIEREN SEGUIR VIVIENDO EN LOS MERCADOS,YA NO QUEDAN ANALISIS,NO HAY FUNDAMENTOS NI PALABRAS PARA EXPLICAR LO QUE SUCEDERA...EN EL NOMBRE DE DIOS RUEGO QUE NO LOS AGARRE ADENTRO..FALTA MUY POCO Y SABRAN :abajo: :abajo: :abajo:

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 2:28 pm
por PAC

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 2:10 pm
por el_porteño

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 2:04 pm
por BLACK HORSE
julio3725 escribió:Realmente me asombra leer algunos posteos de amigos que estan en posiciones perdedoras desde hace tiempo.

Si algun dia la baja grande se da, habra tiempo de ponerse bear.

Ni siquiera la gran baja por las subprime y quiebra de Lehman, causo una baja de un dia para otro. Esa caida llevo poco mas de un año hasta tocar fondo.

La unica gran caida que yo recuerdo en un dia, fue Fat Finger, que justo en ese momento estaba viendo la pantalla y no lo podia creer que un indice pasara de un -1% a un -10% en segundos... creo que vivi un momento historico. No creo que se pueda vivir algo semejante de nuevo.

Asi que aca voy a ser odioso, voy a dar un consejo: hay que ser un camaleon y sufear las olas con SL y retirar las ganancias a tiempo, asi sean pocas, porque recuerden que las grandes fortunas se amasan de a centavos...

Un abrazo y buen finde.

Ese día yo tampoco lo podía creer y hice un par de print de pantallas, cambiaba todo muy rápido. Fue increíble.

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 1:30 pm
por gahvet
Quiero fondear con algunos USD mi cuenta en USA.
Quizás alguien necesite mis servicios, y yo los de el; de esa manera nos podemos pagar en USD por medio de PAYPAL ¿?

Paso mi mail: gahvet@gmail.com

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 12:26 pm
por lucas3
gracias, bull ta se comio un 8% abajo en 3 ruedas,, muy exagerada.

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 11:04 am
por bullbear
CReo que la mano viene por ahi.....

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 11:02 am
por bullbear
lucas3 escribió:bull tenes idea porque le estan pegando tanto a vale?

TORONTO (Globe and Mail)--Brazilian mining giant Vale SA (VALE) is postponing a massive C$3 billion potash project in Saskatchewan , but the province says this is just a minor setback in the huge run-up in potash investment that will continue to flow in the coming years.
The huge mine was to be developed near Kronau , a town of about 200 people 30 km south of Regina . It would have employed more than 1,000 workers during construction, and hundreds would have been needed to operate it once it was opened.
But the mine, set to be constructed over the next three years, won't go ahead as planned, Vale chief executive officer Murilo Ferreira told reporters in Rio de Janeiro Thursday. He said the company is committed to austerity in the current economic conditions, and might delay other investments as well.
Vale Canada spokesman Cory McPhee said the project is being postponed, but not cancelled. "We are simply re-evaluating it," he said, because of the current economic conditions. "We are looking at all the projects we have on our plate and prioritizing."
Some work on the project, such as environmental impact studies, will continue in the meantime, he said. The company will provide details of the delay to its shareholders in the near future, he said, but won't elaborate until then.
Vale bought the Kronau project from Australian-based Rio Tinto PLC in 2009 for about US$850 million .
Saskatchewan's minister of the economy Bill Boyd said in an interview that it was "unfortunate but not surprising" that Vale was putting the brakes on the Kronau project. As a new entrant into potash "I am sure they are trying to time their arrival into the marketplace with future demand," he said.
Over all, however, there is an "explosion of investment" in potash mining in Saskatchewan , with C$12 billion being pumped into the sector by existing and new players, and that is not going to stop, Mr. Boyd said. "We see a very large ramp up of spending in the potash sector, and we expect that to continue."
Erwin Beitel , Reeve of the regional municipality that includes the town of Kronau , said he spoke with representatives of Vale last week and they told him they are "holding back" on the project. The company will continue some work and get "as close as they can to production, when things do turn around." Now it may be four or five years before the mine is open, rather than three, he said.
Mr. Beitel said the company appears to be "a little leery about competition and the price of potash right now."
He noted that there are two other companies looking at mining potash in the area: Rio Tinto, which now has a new project under way and Western Potash Corp.
There has been some opposition to the mine in the area because of the potential impact of an influx of workers, and concerns over the large amount of water the mine would use, Mr. Beitel said. The planned mine would use a technology that involves vast quantities of water that would have to be brought in from a nearby lake by pipeline.
However, Mr. Beitel said, "it is disappointing for a lot of people who were looking for work. Instead of travelling a long way for work, they could work at the mine site." Some houses were also being built in anticipation of renting them out to incoming workers, and hotels and franchises such as Tim Hortons were interesting in moving into the area, he said.
However, he noted, things are booming in Saskatchewan and potash is still a crucial commodity for making fertilizer, and in the long run the mine will likely get built.

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 11:01 am
por bullbear
lucas3 escribió:bull tenes idea porque le estan pegando tanto a vale?

RIO DE JANEIRO--Prices of metals and minerals commodities are set to decline over the long term amid pressures of technological change, a mineral economist said Friday.
Average prices of a large number of metals and minerals commodities have been on a consistently falling trend since the 1920s and some, including aluminum prices, have showed a marked decline since that time, John Cuddington , professor of mineral economics at the U.S.'s Colorado School of Mines , said at a commodities seminar in Rio de Janeiro .
Mining companies, however, can still make profits on extraction and sales of nonrenewable resources because the fall in prices has been accompanied by "huge" declines in the marginal costs of discovery, exploration and production, Prof. Cuddington said.
The professor charted data on 100 nonrenewable metal and mineral resource products, including industrial minerals used in construction, to illustrate his claim that average commodity prices are continuing to fall over the long term. Data from the Economist's commodities indexes and the U.S. Geological Survey support this argument, Prof. Cuddington said.
"It's hard to argue there'll be a long-term rise in nonrenewable commodities prices. The long-term trend is negative," he said. "There's a tension between scarcity of resources, caused by population growth, and ongoing technological change."
Price peaks in commodities, and the so-called supercycles, have related to specific industrial movements including the renaissance of Japan's economy after the Second World War, according to the professor.
The long-term falling price trend, however, is masked by growing volatility in metals and minerals markets, which can alter prices by as much as 40% up or down on an annual basis, Prof. Cuddington said.
"We have a profound level of ignorance on long term trends because of the huge volatility," he said. Exchange-based trading may have reduced the volatility of some commodities, he said.
The trend for minerals prices to fall makes long-term investments in these commodities and the companies that produce them a risky business, making diversification of investments more desirable, according to the professor.
"I'd be reluctant to take huge long spot positions in nonrenewable resources," he said. Because of the pace of technological change and the search for product substitutes "some commodities will become obsolete economically before we run out of them," Prof. Cuddington said.
Jan Groen of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York , also speaking at the event, said that futures prices for commodities often "efficiently incorporate public information" about the global economy into commodities prices.

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 10:59 am
por lucas3
bull tenes idea porque le estan pegando tanto a vale?

Re: DIA Dow Jones 30 (ETF)

Publicado: Lun Ago 20, 2012 10:56 am
por bullbear
Bonos Up, Mkt sideways or Bear ?