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Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Estaría bueno saber tu opinión SRV1239!! Saludos
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Gracias Tata!!
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
A ver que opinan...les dejo esto que me llegó recién del Bank Of A******, de un analista que sigue Braskem:
2) Potential Acquisitions –Solvay Assets in Latin America: Management
has openly commented that the company was potentially interested in
acquiring Solvay-Indupa assets in Latin America. Press reports have
suggested a valuation for the asset of US%500-US$600 million, although
management has not given any indication of a value. Here are some
details on the Solvay Indupa assets, as well as valuation metrics to monitor:
a. Assets Description: Solvay Indupa assets are mainly located
in Bahia Blanca (Argentina) and Santo André (Brazil), where
the company has the following installed capacities: (1) 520 th.
tons of PVC, (2) 550 th. tons of VCM (Vinyl Chloride
Monomer), (3) 355 th. tons of Caustic Soda, and (4) 50 th. tons
of other caustic soda derivatives. It is important to mention that
the plants are not integrated, being that Solvay Indupa acquires
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st generation products from Dow in Argentina and Braskem in
Brazil.
b. Financials: Solvay Indupa’s results have deteriorated sharply
in recent years, with EBITDA falling from US$159mn in 2006 to
US$70mn in 20011 and US$13mn in 2012. Although recent
results are believed to have been hurt by weaker PVC margins,
we believe the poor trends in Argentina and weaker demand in
Brazil have together hurt results.
c. Potential acquisition would be relatively small for
Braskem: If Braskem were to move forward with the
acquisition, it would further concentrate the PVC market in
Brazil, which could be positive for pricing. Still, it would be a
relatively small acquisition for the company. Assuming EBITDA
of US$70 million (R$170 mn), the stock would add only 3% to
estimated consolidated EBITDA for Braskem. Still, if the price
were to reach the levels reported in the press (US$500-
US$600mn), the purchase would represent an est. 8%-9% of
the company’s current market cap.
d. Potential valuation parameters important to monitor: We
believe a reasonable limit for a potential valuation would lie in
the range of US$400-US$450 for Solvay Indupa’s EV (US$175-
US$195 in equity given the company’s YE2012 Net debt
position of US$246.5. This would translate into EV/normalized
EBITDA levels of 6.0x, or EV/ton levels of US$300 (Braskem
paid estimated US$307 per ton on Dow’s PP assets in US and
Europe.
e. Environmental issues/Other: Mexichem had also indicated
interest in the Solvay assets. However, Mexichem has
indicated that there were some concerns about potential
liabilities in the Solvay operation, particularly potential
environmental issues related to the production process in
Solvay’s operations in Brazil, that we understand limited the
valuation the company was willing to put on the asset. At this
stage, we do not believe Mexichem is likely to be a part of the
sale process.
2) Potential Acquisitions –Solvay Assets in Latin America: Management
has openly commented that the company was potentially interested in
acquiring Solvay-Indupa assets in Latin America. Press reports have
suggested a valuation for the asset of US%500-US$600 million, although
management has not given any indication of a value. Here are some
details on the Solvay Indupa assets, as well as valuation metrics to monitor:
a. Assets Description: Solvay Indupa assets are mainly located
in Bahia Blanca (Argentina) and Santo André (Brazil), where
the company has the following installed capacities: (1) 520 th.
tons of PVC, (2) 550 th. tons of VCM (Vinyl Chloride
Monomer), (3) 355 th. tons of Caustic Soda, and (4) 50 th. tons
of other caustic soda derivatives. It is important to mention that
the plants are not integrated, being that Solvay Indupa acquires
1
st generation products from Dow in Argentina and Braskem in
Brazil.
b. Financials: Solvay Indupa’s results have deteriorated sharply
in recent years, with EBITDA falling from US$159mn in 2006 to
US$70mn in 20011 and US$13mn in 2012. Although recent
results are believed to have been hurt by weaker PVC margins,
we believe the poor trends in Argentina and weaker demand in
Brazil have together hurt results.
c. Potential acquisition would be relatively small for
Braskem: If Braskem were to move forward with the
acquisition, it would further concentrate the PVC market in
Brazil, which could be positive for pricing. Still, it would be a
relatively small acquisition for the company. Assuming EBITDA
of US$70 million (R$170 mn), the stock would add only 3% to
estimated consolidated EBITDA for Braskem. Still, if the price
were to reach the levels reported in the press (US$500-
US$600mn), the purchase would represent an est. 8%-9% of
the company’s current market cap.
d. Potential valuation parameters important to monitor: We
believe a reasonable limit for a potential valuation would lie in
the range of US$400-US$450 for Solvay Indupa’s EV (US$175-
US$195 in equity given the company’s YE2012 Net debt
position of US$246.5. This would translate into EV/normalized
EBITDA levels of 6.0x, or EV/ton levels of US$300 (Braskem
paid estimated US$307 per ton on Dow’s PP assets in US and
Europe.
e. Environmental issues/Other: Mexichem had also indicated
interest in the Solvay assets. However, Mexichem has
indicated that there were some concerns about potential
liabilities in the Solvay operation, particularly potential
environmental issues related to the production process in
Solvay’s operations in Brazil, that we understand limited the
valuation the company was willing to put on the asset. At this
stage, we do not believe Mexichem is likely to be a part of the
sale process.
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
HoeS escribió:Excdelente tata ...... como siempre.
Gracias
Ne es "ex de lente". Es "excelente"

Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Excdelente tata ...... como siempre.
Gracias
Gracias
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa

INDU diario
En el gráfico de arriba creo ver que la corrección grande se da en forma de ABC, lo que me induce a pensar que podemos estar en los inicios de otro impulso. Hay que estar atentos a la señal del MACD y monitorear los soportes y resistencias. Pueden faltar algunas ruedas aún para definir, pero esta semana y la próxima son vitales (por la convergencia de soporte y resistencia).
Quiero aclarar que los papeles del merval creo que van a corregir un poco más... veremos como impacta eso.
Si tuviera que elegir una única modalidad de AT como mi preferida.... indudablemente elegiría candlesticks ya que permite interpretaciones que de otra forma se escapan.
Abajo vemos lo mismo en un gráfico semanal, y podemos entender por qué es muy difícil hacer bajar al papel de $4. Y es porque estamos regidos por un enorme velón blanco que da mucho soporte (para cierres semanales) entre 3,90 y 4,50. Creo que esta es la mejor garantía que puede tener quien compra a los precios que estamos viendo.
Mucho por ganar, relativamente poco por perder.
Saludos caballeros...

INDU semanal
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Salió en el Bovespa, un Acta de directorio donde dice que Braskem está tomando créditos con un banco, Quizás sea para la compra de INDU?????
http://www.bmfbovespa.com.br/empresas/c ... zar&site=B
Entiendo que ya tenían una línea de crédito con éste banco bastante importante para el desarrollo de un proyecto de Etileno, pero bueno a seguir confiando.

http://www.bmfbovespa.com.br/empresas/c ... zar&site=B
Entiendo que ya tenían una línea de crédito con éste banco bastante importante para el desarrollo de un proyecto de Etileno, pero bueno a seguir confiando.


Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
vamos INDU que EDN los va a empomar a todos 

Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Así que Induperos, si quieren vernos en el Merdal mañana salgan a comprar yo pongo 100k a $8 si quieren para dar volumen




Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
ElNegro escribió:como la ves??
Y las cantidades de operaciones??
Puede ser que no salga EDN y entrmos??
Matutino escribió:5 millones la diferencia ahora que hay que aguantar en las últimas 3 ruedas, para el Merdal.
Sacaron un nuevo cálculo a ayer y queda afuera por ahora
http://www.iamc.com.ar/Imgs/Dyn/Archivo ... 14-7-0.pdf
Tienen que estar dentro del 80% acumulado del coeficiente y desde el viernes a ayer EDN sacó una pequeña ventaja

Ojalá podamos revertirlo en los próximos días, estamos muy cerca...
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
el tata escribió:No estoy seguro de que hayamos visto todavía el último intento por bajarla....
Van a hacer un poco más de fuerza, al menos lo van a intentar....
Pero nada de otro mundo.
vos ves lo mismo que nosotros que ponen de 1000 papeles siempre abajo para joder??
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
No estoy seguro de que hayamos visto todavía el último intento por bajarla....
Van a hacer un poco más de fuerza, al menos lo van a intentar....
Pero nada de otro mundo.
Van a hacer un poco más de fuerza, al menos lo van a intentar....
Pero nada de otro mundo.
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
Matutino escribió:5 millones la diferencia ahora que hay que aguantar en las últimas 3 ruedas, para el Merdal.
como la ves??
Y las cantidades de operaciones??
Puede ser que no salga EDN y entrmos??
Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
32 cvs desde minimo recuperó,sin muchos sobresalto,solo se corrió el ortiva de siempre.
Vamos al merval
Hoy muy rojo todo sino cerrabamos en $4,80,me parece que

Vamos al merval

Hoy muy rojo todo sino cerrabamos en $4,80,me parece que


Re: INDU Solvay Indupa
5 millones la diferencia ahora que hay que aguantar en las últimas 3 ruedas, para el Merdal.
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