APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

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Mensajepor valiant » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:09 pm

mmarcodelpont escribió:crudo -13% en 5 ruedas....

petrobras en el paraiso con esta baja.
menos costo de importaciones,menos regalias para 2.2 millones de barriles por dia.

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Mensajepor mmarcodelpont » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:08 pm

virrey escribió:la Baja en el crudo ya no le afecta a PBR, por mas que se vaya a 30 :100:


no claro, xq hace comida rapida.. pavadas no virrey

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Mensajepor valiant » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:07 pm

virrey escribió:Are oil prices and interest rates correlated?

There's no easy answer to this question. While many theories abound, the reality is that oil prices and interest rates have some correlation between their movements, but are not correlated exclusively. In truth, many factors affect the direction of both interest rates and oil prices. Sometimes those factors are related, sometimes they affect each other, and sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to what happens.

One of the basic theories stipulates that increasing interest rates raise consumers' and manufacturers' costs, which, in turn, reduces the amount of time and money people spend driving. Less people on the road translates to less demand for oil, which can cause oil prices to drop. Thus, in this instance, there might be what we'd call an "inverse correlation" where one thing rises and the other drops.

By this same theory, when interest rates drop, consumers and companies are able to borrow and spend money more freely, which drives up demand for oil. The greater the usage of oil, which has OPEC-imposed limits on production amounts, the more consumers bid up the price.

Another inversely correlated theory, which can occur simultaneously with the first, proposes that rising or high interest rates help strengthen the dollar against other countries' currencies. When the dollar is strong, this helps American oil companies to buy more oil with every U.S. dollar spent, ultimately passing the savings on to consumers. Likewise, when the value of the dollar is low against foreign currencies, something that can happen with sinking interest rates, U.S. dollars buy less oil than before. This, of course, can contribute to oil becoming costlier to the U.S., which consumes 25% of the world's oil.

With all that said, factors such as hurricanes, wars, increased efficiency of new cars, lowered OPEC output, and changes in domestic oil production all can have uncorrelated effects on oil prices. Just when you thought oil prices should go up or down opposite of interest rates, they do something entirely different. Even the fear of occurrences such as natural disasters and wars can cause oil prices to spike just when they should be dropping, as seen over the last decade.

propongo otra mucho más interesante.
con que tasa vas a descontar el flujo de fondos de un proyecto de extraccion de petroleo?
una suba de tasas implica una suba de tasa de descuento de flujos futuros y puede requerir precios crecientes para compensar.

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor virrey » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:05 pm

la Baja en el crudo ya no le afecta a PBR, por mas que se vaya a 30 :100:

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Mensajepor mmarcodelpont » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:05 pm

crudo -13% en 5 ruedas....

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Mensajepor virrey » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:04 pm

putcall escribió:me llevo otros lotesitos de la 42.4 Ju a 1.95!!

zorrito me los largaste??? o lo seguís teniendo en cartera?


Ese lote creo que va a pagar bien putcall, eso si... yo lo venderia en mayo.

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor putcall » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:03 pm

me llevo otros lotesitos de la 42.4 Ju a 1.95!!

zorrito me los largaste??? o lo seguís teniendo en cartera?

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor virrey » Mié Mar 18, 2015 12:01 pm

Are oil prices and interest rates correlated?

There's no easy answer to this question. While many theories abound, the reality is that oil prices and interest rates have some correlation between their movements, but are not correlated exclusively. In truth, many factors affect the direction of both interest rates and oil prices. Sometimes those factors are related, sometimes they affect each other, and sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to what happens.

One of the basic theories stipulates that increasing interest rates raise consumers' and manufacturers' costs, which, in turn, reduces the amount of time and money people spend driving. Less people on the road translates to less demand for oil, which can cause oil prices to drop. Thus, in this instance, there might be what we'd call an "inverse correlation" where one thing rises and the other drops.

By this same theory, when interest rates drop, consumers and companies are able to borrow and spend money more freely, which drives up demand for oil. The greater the usage of oil, which has OPEC-imposed limits on production amounts, the more consumers bid up the price.

Another inversely correlated theory, which can occur simultaneously with the first, proposes that rising or high interest rates help strengthen the dollar against other countries' currencies. When the dollar is strong, this helps American oil companies to buy more oil with every U.S. dollar spent, ultimately passing the savings on to consumers. Likewise, when the value of the dollar is low against foreign currencies, something that can happen with sinking interest rates, U.S. dollars buy less oil than before. This, of course, can contribute to oil becoming costlier to the U.S., which consumes 25% of the world's oil.

With all that said, factors such as hurricanes, wars, increased efficiency of new cars, lowered OPEC output, and changes in domestic oil production all can have uncorrelated effects on oil prices. Just when you thought oil prices should go up or down opposite of interest rates, they do something entirely different. Even the fear of occurrences such as natural disasters and wars can cause oil prices to spike just when they should be dropping, as seen over the last decade.

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor afontao » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:59 am

aescott escribió:Vayan a largo, si no ni se metan dentro de poco empieza de vuelta :abajo: hasta 2.68 y despues se viene el split 1.34.

visionario escribió: ehhhh????? que hierba te fumaste ???? :shock:

Para mi se equivoco de foro :golpe:

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Mensajepor valiant » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:58 am

Koshka2 escribió:[quote="Do]Ah bueh cierran en la 38,4?[/
Parece hay gente a la que le sobra cubierto y lanza felizmente, y quien compra sin asco 8)

Alguien sabe que pasaria con el precio del Oil, si cambian las tazas?

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con las tasas en alza el precio DEL PETROLEO debe subir casi con seguridad.

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Mensajepor jabalina » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:58 am

quienduda escribió:Le tenemos fe?


Le TENGO FE.
Vamos que Dilma dio una vuelta de timon y la garota se dispara.

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor Athila » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:58 am

Diga 33 y me retiré; les deseo muy buena suerte a los que siguen.-

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor virrey » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:57 am

y vale la veo en 9 para despues bajar a 7

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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor quienduda » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:57 am

Le tenemos fe?
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Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil

Mensajepor mmarcodelpont » Mié Mar 18, 2015 11:56 am

virrey escribió:Para mi va de aca a 8 (mediados de mayo) y despues vuelve a 6 y se queda el resto del anio ahi.

Puede fallar :100:


en 7.98 vendo entonces


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