APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
creo que todo puede pasar.
no pidas seguridad en esta vida.
no pidas seguridad en esta vida.
Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
valiant
Te pido tu opinión acerca de si el papel podría abstraerse de un evento negativo en el mercado internacional al fallar el rescate de Grecia. Me lo planteo porque así como cuando Petrobras destruyó su valor siguiendo su propia lógica por la corrupción interna de la empresa y eventualmente por la caida del petróleo, con mercados positivos; podría ahora hacer lo mismo pero en el sentido inverso?
Te pido tu opinión acerca de si el papel podría abstraerse de un evento negativo en el mercado internacional al fallar el rescate de Grecia. Me lo planteo porque así como cuando Petrobras destruyó su valor siguiendo su propia lógica por la corrupción interna de la empresa y eventualmente por la caida del petróleo, con mercados positivos; podría ahora hacer lo mismo pero en el sentido inverso?
Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
Merlín escribió:Bien. La suba de Petr4 en Brasil potenciada por el forex. La tormenta perfecta
el grafico de petr4 es el que estoy viendo????
Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
Bien. La suba de Petr4 en Brasil potenciada por el forex. La tormenta perfecta 

Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
el banco central brasileño subió la tasa a 13.75 %,veremos si eso termina impactando en la cotizacion del real.
debería.
el real hasta el viernes se hallaba dentro de un canal alcista( alcista del dolar) de corto plazo.
es muy fuerte la tasa en brasil,deberia empezar a aplanarse este movimiento y si termina mas o menos con este maximo,me parece que puede bajar a unos 2.80 reales por dolar como extremo.
pero primero que quiebre el canalcito en el que viene.
debería.
el real hasta el viernes se hallaba dentro de un canal alcista( alcista del dolar) de corto plazo.
es muy fuerte la tasa en brasil,deberia empezar a aplanarse este movimiento y si termina mas o menos con este maximo,me parece que puede bajar a unos 2.80 reales por dolar como extremo.
pero primero que quiebre el canalcito en el que viene.
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[quote="El Brujo"]Termine de trae todo para aca. Panorama argentino muy complicado. Se viene el ajuste forzado, gane quien gane. Brasil ya lo hizo. Cobertura frente a CCL.
Por momentos siento que a Macri no le interesa ganar. Quiere seguir creciendo. Su objetivo si o si es el 2019 (Plan Duran Barba)[/quote
Vamos maquinista colega!! que este tren tiene que salir aunque tome envión de tanto en tanto!!

Por momentos siento que a Macri no le interesa ganar. Quiere seguir creciendo. Su objetivo si o si es el 2019 (Plan Duran Barba)[/quote
Vamos maquinista colega!! que este tren tiene que salir aunque tome envión de tanto en tanto!!



Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
no es futbol esto.. va con onda.
para tener una nocion mas o menos objetiva del "tamaño" de la economia de ambos paises....
para tener una nocion mas o menos objetiva del "tamaño" de la economia de ambos paises....
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Merlín escribió:[quote="miguel angel"todo el movimiento de grecia afuera del euro de principio te bajan los mercados como el mercado lo esta pensando hoy y los indices estan para abajo. a mi personalmente brasil no me gusta lo conozco bien y cuando brasil comienza con una crisis y se confirma se devalua a lo grande. creo que el que esta comprado tiene que estar atento con los stop y respetarlos .[/quote
Siempre Stops. Yo no los uso en base cierre porque uso conteos intra para estimar movimientos posibles.
Un partecita de la crisis de Brasil es culpa nuestra que los arrastramos... si aca nuestro mercado reflota, Brasil tambien lo hara...
Yo creo que una buena noticia politica en la region, mejorara la situacion de los emergentes en general y los ciclos de bolsa se adelantan seis meses a los ciclos economicos reales... atenti que si ves crisis hoy, el emrcado ya lo desconto por eso cayo desde hace seis meses y el rebote este mas cerca de lo que creas...
argentina no puede arrastrar a brasil,sería como un mosquito tirando de un elefante.
al revés si puede ser.
Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
El Brujo escribió:Termine de trae todo para aca. Panorama argentino muy complicado. Se viene el ajuste forzado, gane quien gane. Brasil ya lo hizo. Cobertura frente a CCL.
Por momentos siento que a Macri no le interesa ganar. Quiere seguir creciendo. Su objetivo si o si es el 2019 (Plan Duran Barba)
Con respecto a Macri, amigo, creo que lo que él y su equipo plantean es que la solución no es ganar, es cambiar. No necesitamos que Masa y Macri se alíen para cambiar.

Re: APBR (ord) APBRA (pref) Petrobras Brasil
Termine de trae todo para aca. Panorama argentino muy complicado. Se viene el ajuste forzado, gane quien gane. Brasil ya lo hizo. Cobertura frente a CCL.
Por momentos siento que a Macri no le interesa ganar. Quiere seguir creciendo. Su objetivo si o si es el 2019 (Plan Duran Barba)
Por momentos siento que a Macri no le interesa ganar. Quiere seguir creciendo. Su objetivo si o si es el 2019 (Plan Duran Barba)
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Brazil’s Rousseff, Ministers to Discuss Infrastructure Projects
Plan, to be unveiled as soon as Tuesday, is Brazil’s biggest hope to alleviate economic downturn
http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-rou ... 1433538733
Y este puede ser el driver del oil en vistas a las elecciones yankees:
Obama under pressure to release secret pages of 9/11 report 'showing Saudi Arabia financed attacks'
A long running campaign over redacted pages of a Senate report into 9/11 which allegedly reveal Riyadh as the principle financier is gathering new momentum
The Obama administration is facing renewed pressure to release a top secret report that allegedly shows that Saudi Arabia directly helped to finance the September 11 attacks.
Rand Paul, the Libertarian Republican senator from Kentucky, is demanding that Mr Obama declassify 28 pages that were redacted from a 2002 US Senate report into the 9/11 attacks.
Mr Paul, who been vocal in attacking the bulk NSA spying programmes revealed by the rogue security contractor Edward Snowden and is running for president in 2016, has now promised to file an amendment to a Senate bill that would call on Mr Obama to declassify the pages.
The blacked-out pages, which have taken on an almost mythical quality for 9/11 conspiracy theorists, were classified on the orders of George W. Bush, leading to speculation they confirmed Saudi involvement.
Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Mihdar (Getty Images)
According to Bob Graham, the former Florida senator who was chair of the Senate Intelligence committee at the time of the report, they show that Saudi Arabia was the “principle financier” of the attack.
The White House said in January that it was reviewing the file, said that it had set no timetable for the conclusions of its deliberations.
Some families of 9/11 victims have campaigned for several years for the declassification of the 28 pages, supported by Mr Graham who has now enlisted the high-profile Mr Paul to his cause.
“Information revealed over the years does raise questions about [Saudi Arabia’s] support, or whether their support might have been supportive to these Al Qaeda terrorists,” Mr Paul said at the press conference in Washington this week.
“We cannot let page after page of blanked-out documents be obscured behind a veil, leading these families to wonder if there is additional information surrounding these horrible acts.”
Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, but previous investigations always failed to find a formal link between the country and the terrorist attack, which killed 2,996 people.
Many victims groups believe the full extent of Saudi involvement in 9/11 has long been covered up by both the Obama and Bush administrations to protect US-Saudi relations.
Terry Strada, who leads 9/11 Families and Survivors United For Justice Against Terrorism, said that the supposed Saudi funding link was not a surprise.
"Nearly every significant element that led to the attacks of Sept. 11 points to Saudi Arabia," he said. "Money is the lifeblood of terrorism. Without money, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened."
Earlier this year, the theory of Saudi involvement was given added impetus by fresh testimony from Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "twentieth hijacker" who had taken flying lessons but was arrested weeks before the September 11 attacks – although was later disowned by Osama bin Laden.
In a plea to a New York court released last February, Moussaoui said that senior members of the Saudi royal family were major al-Qaeda donors and were intimately involved with Osama bin Laden's terror network in the 1990s.
He named Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States and Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor.
However the Saudi Embassy dismissed Moussaoui – who was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic - as "a deranged criminal" trying to "get attention for himself and try to do what he could not do through acts of terrorism – to undermine Saudi-US relations".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -Bush.html
Por cierto, Graham va en serio, si llega a ganar, las cosas se van a poner calientes.
Plan, to be unveiled as soon as Tuesday, is Brazil’s biggest hope to alleviate economic downturn
http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-rou ... 1433538733
Y este puede ser el driver del oil en vistas a las elecciones yankees:
Obama under pressure to release secret pages of 9/11 report 'showing Saudi Arabia financed attacks'
A long running campaign over redacted pages of a Senate report into 9/11 which allegedly reveal Riyadh as the principle financier is gathering new momentum
The Obama administration is facing renewed pressure to release a top secret report that allegedly shows that Saudi Arabia directly helped to finance the September 11 attacks.
Rand Paul, the Libertarian Republican senator from Kentucky, is demanding that Mr Obama declassify 28 pages that were redacted from a 2002 US Senate report into the 9/11 attacks.
Mr Paul, who been vocal in attacking the bulk NSA spying programmes revealed by the rogue security contractor Edward Snowden and is running for president in 2016, has now promised to file an amendment to a Senate bill that would call on Mr Obama to declassify the pages.
The blacked-out pages, which have taken on an almost mythical quality for 9/11 conspiracy theorists, were classified on the orders of George W. Bush, leading to speculation they confirmed Saudi involvement.
Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Mihdar (Getty Images)
According to Bob Graham, the former Florida senator who was chair of the Senate Intelligence committee at the time of the report, they show that Saudi Arabia was the “principle financier” of the attack.
The White House said in January that it was reviewing the file, said that it had set no timetable for the conclusions of its deliberations.
Some families of 9/11 victims have campaigned for several years for the declassification of the 28 pages, supported by Mr Graham who has now enlisted the high-profile Mr Paul to his cause.
“Information revealed over the years does raise questions about [Saudi Arabia’s] support, or whether their support might have been supportive to these Al Qaeda terrorists,” Mr Paul said at the press conference in Washington this week.
“We cannot let page after page of blanked-out documents be obscured behind a veil, leading these families to wonder if there is additional information surrounding these horrible acts.”
Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, but previous investigations always failed to find a formal link between the country and the terrorist attack, which killed 2,996 people.
Many victims groups believe the full extent of Saudi involvement in 9/11 has long been covered up by both the Obama and Bush administrations to protect US-Saudi relations.
Terry Strada, who leads 9/11 Families and Survivors United For Justice Against Terrorism, said that the supposed Saudi funding link was not a surprise.
"Nearly every significant element that led to the attacks of Sept. 11 points to Saudi Arabia," he said. "Money is the lifeblood of terrorism. Without money, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened."
Earlier this year, the theory of Saudi involvement was given added impetus by fresh testimony from Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "twentieth hijacker" who had taken flying lessons but was arrested weeks before the September 11 attacks – although was later disowned by Osama bin Laden.
In a plea to a New York court released last February, Moussaoui said that senior members of the Saudi royal family were major al-Qaeda donors and were intimately involved with Osama bin Laden's terror network in the 1990s.
He named Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States and Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor.
However the Saudi Embassy dismissed Moussaoui – who was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic - as "a deranged criminal" trying to "get attention for himself and try to do what he could not do through acts of terrorism – to undermine Saudi-US relations".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -Bush.html
Por cierto, Graham va en serio, si llega a ganar, las cosas se van a poner calientes.
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http://www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=793695
Cómo ven el impacto de la noticia de Griesa el lunes? Yo creo que muchas acciones y bonos van a caer fuerte porque si bien Argentina ya apeló estas noticias las últimas veces pegaron mal. Salvo que estuviera descontado en los precios pero no creo.
Y me parece que APBR por moverse mas por noticias de Brasil que por Argentina puede llegar a convertirse en refugio de valor.
Podrá ser así?
Ojalá!!!
Buen fin de semana!!!
Cómo ven el impacto de la noticia de Griesa el lunes? Yo creo que muchas acciones y bonos van a caer fuerte porque si bien Argentina ya apeló estas noticias las últimas veces pegaron mal. Salvo que estuviera descontado en los precios pero no creo.
Y me parece que APBR por moverse mas por noticias de Brasil que por Argentina puede llegar a convertirse en refugio de valor.
Podrá ser así?
Ojalá!!!



Buen fin de semana!!!
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Dostoievsky escribió:Quienduda, está???
cómo anda estimado? Por acá andamos, tranqui, esperando el ejercicio

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Quedamos los pobres aca parece para el lunes. 

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