excelente phantom. La ciencia es en sí misma exceptica. Esta gente del calentamiento global producido por el hombre ha dejado de ser ciencia para transformarse en religión. En Europa la izquierda anda pregonando reducir la población, volver a una especie de sovietismo económico pero verde y encima como si fuera poco "regular la cantidad de alimentos producidos para maximziar recursos" una especie de cartillas de racionamiento global!. Estan locos.... encima los ingleses que inventaron todo esto para terminar con la dependencia minera energetica del carbon al mando de la thatcher, andan manipulando datos que pueden perjudicar seriamente la posición hasta hoy predominante. Fue todo un escandalo estas dos semanas en que miembros grosos de las nacionaes unidas tuvieron que renunciar por el escandalo. Al punto que estados unidos anda pidiendo una declaración donde la ONU no figure!!.
lo que salga de dinamarca será meramente, espero, un compromiso para mejorar la eficiencia energetica y no un holocausto seudocientifico del terrorismo ambientalista.
Todo depende de Estados Unidos... lastima que gobierna Obama...
GLD Oro (ETF)
Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
jpbeer: te cuento una cosa sobre la supuesta guerra del agua.
EL agua no va a faltar nunca en el planeta. Lo que sí es cierto es que se va a "redistribuir" debido al gran cambio climatico.
Lentamente zonas aridas se volveran mas fertiles y zonas fertiles se volverán mas áridas.
Acá en Argentina tenemos un "pequeño aviso": la gran sequía del campo no es otra cosa que una primera etapa. Dentro de 100 años , Argentina va a tener mas de la mitad de su territorio árido. Y como somos tan idiotas que nuestra unica fuente de recursos es la actividad agropecuaria, veremos convertida a la Argentina en un país pauperrimo.
Pero mientras existan las lluvias, el agua potable no va a faltar nunca. Solo hay que cuidar de no contaminarla.
Mientras tanto... pensemos en cuanto vale el oro.
EL agua no va a faltar nunca en el planeta. Lo que sí es cierto es que se va a "redistribuir" debido al gran cambio climatico.
Lentamente zonas aridas se volveran mas fertiles y zonas fertiles se volverán mas áridas.
Acá en Argentina tenemos un "pequeño aviso": la gran sequía del campo no es otra cosa que una primera etapa. Dentro de 100 años , Argentina va a tener mas de la mitad de su territorio árido. Y como somos tan idiotas que nuestra unica fuente de recursos es la actividad agropecuaria, veremos convertida a la Argentina en un país pauperrimo.
Pero mientras existan las lluvias, el agua potable no va a faltar nunca. Solo hay que cuidar de no contaminarla.
Mientras tanto... pensemos en cuanto vale el oro.
Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
El oro cae, porque el EUR/USD cae.
Si el dolar se refuerza contra el Euro, es logico que la onza de oro valga menos , medida en dolares.
Respecto al 2 de diciembre, el Oro cayó un 5 % pero el Euro respecto al dolar cayó mas del 2,3 %
O sea que el oro con respecto al Euro cayó algo mas del 2,5 %
Este tipo de caídas dentro de una tendencia alcista que ya tiene 8 años de duración, no debería asustar a nadie. Son las logicas correccioines del mercado.
¿Cuando el oro va a encontrar su techo? No lo sé, pero no lo hizo aun. Falta en el medio una crisis petrolera, una gran guerra y luego hablamos...
Si el dolar se refuerza contra el Euro, es logico que la onza de oro valga menos , medida en dolares.
Respecto al 2 de diciembre, el Oro cayó un 5 % pero el Euro respecto al dolar cayó mas del 2,3 %
O sea que el oro con respecto al Euro cayó algo mas del 2,5 %
Este tipo de caídas dentro de una tendencia alcista que ya tiene 8 años de duración, no debería asustar a nadie. Son las logicas correccioines del mercado.
¿Cuando el oro va a encontrar su techo? No lo sé, pero no lo hizo aun. Falta en el medio una crisis petrolera, una gran guerra y luego hablamos...
Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
ahora si me fui . saludos
Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
5 de diciembre 2009:
8 de diciembre:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... s37s&pos=6
La manipulación vía prensa es clara.
"extended períod".
reymidas escribió:aquellos que quieran analizar al oro deben tambien leer el COT y lo que estàn haciendo los participantes porque se pierde mucha información técnica.
Lo que se está viendo es un proceso de short covering y justo en un momento especial para el oro.
La "excusa del mercado" para justificar suba de tasas es absurda. los mercados son manipulados con operaciones de prensa.
Del informe del COT del viernes se desprende que hay cobertura de algunas posiciones vendidas ( altamente concentradas)
La monetización de la deuda continúa. El mercado castigó cuando olió subas de tasas para el 2010.
Obama anunció que no va a haber estímulos porque "no tienen plata". ( Tal vez cuando caiga aun mas el mercado decidan volver a la carga).
Esto es una pausa alcista. El oro se veía técnicamente sobrecomprado como comentábamos hace unos días aquí. "caro para el corto , barato para el largo".
Bancos centrales saldrán a aprovechar esta caída en los precios y comprar masivamente.
Enero 2010 promete ser un mes turbulento.
Una suba del 86% del metal plata en 1 año requiere una pausa. No es señal de alarma. La alarma es el falseo es el accionar de Obama que conduce a USA al colapso total.
La crisis de Dubai demostró que manos grandes adoran estas pequeñas correcciones.
Posiblemente se pueda reatacar los 1200 cuando se acerquen vencimientos. No se puede juzgar por 2 o 3 días lo que ocurre.
Los técnicos van a pedir una semana de cierre por arriba de la línea de la mm50 del dólar index para posicionarse.
La bolsa subió de manera falsa producto de devaluaciones y estímulos. El mas mínimo olor a suba de tasas la va a ser colapsar, ya que está carísima ( y sube con tasas negativas).
El dólar continuará las bajas inevitablemente en el 2010. Rumores para enero 2010 de fuertes devaluaciones circulan la red.
Se ampliará en próxima edición, la última del año.
8 de diciembre:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... s37s&pos=6
La manipulación vía prensa es clara.
"extended períod".
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El rosarino
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Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
Xmismujeres:
Mi intencion no fue acusar a nadie, solo hacer una advertencia de como el oro contribuye a todas las contaminaciones que enumeras en tu post, para que tomemos conciencia de lo ******* que somos los que no hacemos nada (como vos decis tambien). Si cada uno contribuyera en un poco nada mas, se evitaria mucha contaminacion.
Despues, con respecto a las pilas, hace 5 anios que no tiro ninguna. Eso si, las tengo almacenadas en cajas y no encuentro un lugar o alguien confiable para tirarlas!! Asi que se me estan almacenando, debo tener como 100 pilas ya
Igual ya casi no compro, uso recargables.
Mi intencion no fue acusar a nadie, solo hacer una advertencia de como el oro contribuye a todas las contaminaciones que enumeras en tu post, para que tomemos conciencia de lo ******* que somos los que no hacemos nada (como vos decis tambien). Si cada uno contribuyera en un poco nada mas, se evitaria mucha contaminacion.
Despues, con respecto a las pilas, hace 5 anios que no tiro ninguna. Eso si, las tengo almacenadas en cajas y no encuentro un lugar o alguien confiable para tirarlas!! Asi que se me estan almacenando, debo tener como 100 pilas ya
Igual ya casi no compro, uso recargables.
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CIRUZZO EL MILLONARIO
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Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
Entiendo muy bien el pto al que va Xmismujeres...
Sólo un pequeño comentario para agregar y/o corregir...el Glifosato, no es más malo que los químicos que se usaban ántes...(ahora es uno solo y en una cantidad apreciable y antes eran 3-4 "cóctel" fatal y mas contaminante que el actual, pero los estudios seobre esos químicos quedaron en el olvido.....lo que causa el efecto terrible del glifosato, es su mala utilización...(ojo....no estoy diciendo que el tirar sólo una gota a la naturaleza no le hace daño eh..para nada....toda actividad de producción humanda deja sus huellas sobre el planeta) a lo que voy es el exceso que usan los Ingenieros, productores para asegurarse un buen resultado....( ántes se usaban 800-1200mm por ha y ahora hechan hasta 4000) ésto genera mayor tolerancia de las malezas por consiguiente mayores dosis y a comenzar el ciclo.
En cuanto a los pooles en en Brasil...no te crea...se hace casi la misma masacre que aca....lo que hay es un mayor control de cómo dejan los suelos (fertilidad química y caract físicas..y factores fisico-químocos) las empresas extranjeras...pero no va mas allá de eso...y con tal de que se ponga la torta, los dejan hacer igual...Grobo SA, Tejar etc creer que utilizan otra tecnología que las de aca?...todo Igual.
Sólo un pequeño comentario para agregar y/o corregir...el Glifosato, no es más malo que los químicos que se usaban ántes...(ahora es uno solo y en una cantidad apreciable y antes eran 3-4 "cóctel" fatal y mas contaminante que el actual, pero los estudios seobre esos químicos quedaron en el olvido.....lo que causa el efecto terrible del glifosato, es su mala utilización...(ojo....no estoy diciendo que el tirar sólo una gota a la naturaleza no le hace daño eh..para nada....toda actividad de producción humanda deja sus huellas sobre el planeta) a lo que voy es el exceso que usan los Ingenieros, productores para asegurarse un buen resultado....( ántes se usaban 800-1200mm por ha y ahora hechan hasta 4000) ésto genera mayor tolerancia de las malezas por consiguiente mayores dosis y a comenzar el ciclo.
En cuanto a los pooles en en Brasil...no te crea...se hace casi la misma masacre que aca....lo que hay es un mayor control de cómo dejan los suelos (fertilidad química y caract físicas..y factores fisico-químocos) las empresas extranjeras...pero no va mas allá de eso...y con tal de que se ponga la torta, los dejan hacer igual...Grobo SA, Tejar etc creer que utilizan otra tecnología que las de aca?...todo Igual.
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Re: GLD Oro (ETF)
Para que los fundamentalistas del oro tomen conciencia de lo mal que le estan haciendo a la humanidad. O estan de un lado o del otro. Aca la cantindad no juega.
http://www.huerquenche.com.ar/cheblog/?p=938
Grandísimos depósitos de oro, plata y otros minerales han sido encontrados bajos los glaciares. Para llegar hasta ellos será necesario quebrar y destruir los glaciares -algo nunca concebido en la historia del mundo- y hacer 2 grandísimos huecos, cada uno tan grande como una montaña, uno para la extracción y otro para el deshecho de la mina.
El proyecto se llama PASCUA LAMA. La compañía se llama Barrick Gold. La operación esta siendo planeada por una multinacional de la cual es miembro George Bush padre…
El gobierno Chileno ha aprobado el proyecto para que empiece este año. La Única razón por la cual no ha empezado aún, es porque los campesinos han obtenido un aplazamiento.
Si destruyen los glaciares, no solamente destruirán la fuente de un agua especialmente pura, pero contaminarán permanentemente los 2 ríos de tal forma que nunca volverán a ser aptos para consumo por humanos o animales debido al uso de cianuro y ácido sulfúrico en el proceso de extracción.
Hasta el último gramo de oro será enviado a la multinacional en el extranjero y ni uno le quedará a la gente a quien le pertenece esta tierra .
A ellos solo les quedará el agua envenenada y las enfermedades consiguientes. Los campesinos llevan bastante tiempo peleando por su tierra, pero no han podido recurrir a la TV por una prohibición del Ministerio del Interior.
Su única esperanza para frenar este proyecto es obtener ayuda de la justicia Internacional.
El mundo debe enterarse de lo que esta pasando en Chile … El lugar por donde empezar a cambiar el mundo es nuestro lugar.
Circula este mensaje entre tus amigos de esta forma:
Por favor copie este texto y péguenlo a un mensaje nuevo, añadiendo su firma y enviándolo a todas las personas en su archivo de direcciones, con copia oculta (CCO).
No a la mina abierta Pascua Lama en la cordillera andina sobre la Frontera entre Chile-Argentina .
Pedimos al gobierno Chileno que no autorice el proyecto Pascua Lama para proteger la totalidad de 2 glaciares, la pureza del agua de los valles de San Félix y El Tránsito, la calidad de la tierra cultivable en la Región de
Atacama y la calidad de vida de la gente afectada de la Región.
La respuesta de BARRICK GOLD:
http://www.barrick.com/Default.aspx?Sec ... nguageId=1
Barrick responds to Pascua-Lama Chain Email
June 2006
We have received a number of emails regarding a chain letter questioning the Company’s Pascua-Lama project in Chile. We believe that it is important that you have factual information about our operations, projects and activities. Contrary to the misleading and inaccurate statements contained in the email letter, there are facts that we believe you should be aware of.
Most importantly, the completely inaccurate assertion is made that “Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold….it would be necessary to break, to destroy the glaciers…” This is simply not the case: 95% of the orebody is NOT under glaciers/ice fields. Protection of the remaining 5% is a key condition of the Chilean authorities’ approval of the project.
About Pascua-Lama
The Pascua-Lama project is the first bi-national mining project in the world. The deposit is located on the border between Chile and Argentina. The Mining Integration Treaty between both countries and a specific protocol signed for Pascua-Lama provides the framework for its development.
Approval of Environmental Impact Study
After an extensive and rigorous review including public consultations, the project’s environmental impact study was approved by Chilean authorities in February 2006. The detailed examination and scrutiny occurred over 14 months and included independent experts and validation of technical data submitted to the authorities. In addition to prescribed public consultations, Barrick voluntarily participated in additional public dialogues and meetings.
The approval of the project in Chile (Resolution - RCA 024/2006) lists more than 400 conditions which Barrick must meet to be able to build and operate the Pascua-Lama Project, including very stringent commitments and controls for the protection of glaciers/ice fields and water resources.
Protecting Water Quality
Barrick´s commitment is that there will be no significant impact on the water users in the valley, either in terms of quality or quantity. Barrick´s confidence in this commitment to the residents of the Huasco Valley is based on more than five years of measured water quality and quantity data in the project area. The system, as designed, will minimize the amount of runoff water coming in contact with mining operations. Multiple barriers of passive and active protection will be used to ensure that any surface or ground water that does come in contact with mining operations is captured and stored for treatment and subsequently completely reused in the mine operations. There are no planned operational discharges to the environment and there is sufficient capacity in the system to provide protection downstream of the project even in extreme runoff events during the life of the mine and after closure. Moreover, the anticipated closure requirements are being built into the project at the beginning of construction.
Additionally, the project will include a comprehensive water quality monitoring and management program, including 30 automated points from which data will be readily available in real time to the authorities and the public and subject to regular independent verification. The quality of water leaving Barrick property, some 15 km upstream of the nearest settlement, will be inspected, controlled and independently audited to comply with legal water quality standards. The expanded number of monitoring points is a direct result of community consultation and dialogue with stakeholders.
Extensive Citizen Participation
Barrick has conducted extensive public participation programs in the communities in Chile and in Argentina - both during the formal processes established by law and also as part of voluntary initiatives. These have included public meetings, door-to-door visits and the distribution of information to keep the community informed of our plans and activities.
Community Relations and Sustainable Development
We are proactively involving the communities in sustainable development initiatives notwithstanding the fact that the project has not yet begun construction. We have initiated a number of social development programs which include significant investments in health, education and skills development training - the latter being part of our commitment to maximize local employment. We also have local supplier development programs in place which will contribute to the development of local capacity and the realization of economic benefits in the region.
Once construction activity is initiated, we will be investing significantly in sustainable development projects to be determined by and based on the priorities of the local communities. In fact, Barrick has committed to make an unprecedented contribution to enhance the distribution, efficiency, and quality of the water resources for all users by working together with the board of water users of the Huasco Valley in Chile and the authorities and irrigators in San Juan Province in Argentina.
The Pascua-Lama Project represents significant and sustainable social and economic benefits to the communities closest to it on both sides of the border. The economic benefits include:
* 5,500 jobs during the construction stage (2006-2009) and 1,660 in the estimated 20 years of operations. Barrick is committed to working with local employees, and in the last year, more than 3,500 people from the Huasco Valley have participated in training activities to acquire skills and knowledge to work on the Pascua-Lama project or other projects in the region;
* A significant component of the estimated US$2.3-2.4 billion capital investment would be directly invested in the Huasco province in Chile and San Juan province in Argentina;
* Consistent with the company’s policy of sourcing local goods and services, Barrick has identified more than 600 potential suppliers from Chile’s Region III; and
* Sustainable development projects have been and will continue to be a priority for funding to the tune of millions of dollars focused in the areas of education, health, infrastructure and agricultural improvement
Misleading Assertions and Facts
The chain letter makes some very misleading characterizations and inaccurate statements. Here are a few examples:
Statement: “water in Chile runs from 2 rivers, fed by 2 glaciers.”
Fact: The Huasco Valley has more than 50 different glaciers and ice fields. The three smaller glaciers or ice fields that are adjacent to the orebody comprise only 0.3% of the potential water resources in the Valley if they were to be destroyed, which was never to be the case.
Statement: “…there is no unemployment...”
Fact: Contrary to this statement, unemployment levels in Region III are among the highest in Chile – the most recent statistics according to the Chilean Statistics Agency reveal rates in the valley in question to be approximately 18%. The mayors representing the four municipalities and most of the community leaders in the Huasco Valley have vocally expressed their support of Pascua-Lama indicating that they believe Barrick will conduct an environmentally responsible project and the generation of economic benefits are needed for the long term sustainable development of the region.
As an illustration of the lack of employment opportunities, Barrick has received over 50,000 applications for jobs. Chileans in the Region III and Argentineans from San Juan are looking for meaningful employment opportunities and the ability to support their families. Human beings deserve the opportunity to make a decent livelihood.
Statement: “Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold….it would be necessary to break, to destroy the glaciers…”
Fact: Contrary to the fundamental premise of the email chain letter, the orebody is NOT under glaciers. This is simply not the case: 95% of the orebody is NOT under glaciers/ice fields. Protection of the remaining 5% is a key condition of the Chilean authorities’ approval of the project.
Statement: “The operation is planned by a multi-national company, one of whose members is George Bush, Sr.”
Fact: Mr. Bush served in an honorary capacity as an advisor to Barrick’s International Advisory Board for two years in the mid 1990’s. Mr. Bush was neither a director nor officer of the Company.
Statement: “If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just destroy the source of especially pure water, but they will permanently contaminate the 2 rivers…”
Fact: To underline its confidence in its operations and commitment to responsible mining practices, Barrick has committed that should the water quality change, it would immediately stop the project. In addition to the multiple barriers of protection built into the design, the Company has a comprehensive water quality monitoring and management program, which will include 30 automated points from which data will be readily available in real time for authorities and the public. This program will be subject to regular independent verification. The expanded number of monitoring points is a direct result of community consultation and dialogue with stakeholders.
Statement: “Every last gram of gold will go abroad…and not one will be left with the people…”
Fact: There will be substantial economic benefits that include 5,500 direct jobs during construction, 1,660 jobs during the two decades of operation, and the indirect job creation and tax revenues generated that will flow back to the communities. In addition, there will be substantial investment in infrastructure, the development of hundreds of local suppliers of goods and services and the implementation of sustainable development programs.
Statement: “The farmers…have been forbidden to make a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior”
Fact: The Water Users Cooperative, representing 2,000 farmers of the Huasco Valley, is fully supportive of the project. Chile is a democratic country and the media play an important role in the public discussion of the community concerns and interests. There has already been an extensive and open discussion of issues including the participation of farmers.
Barrick is committed to high standards and to meaningful dialogue with stakeholders for the long term interests of the areas in which we operate and the sustainability of the environment and communities affected by our operations. We hope this information provides you with some additional perspective on our project. We are very proud of the work we are doing and of the extensive support we have for this initiative at the local and regional level.
http://www.huerquenche.com.ar/cheblog/?p=938
Grandísimos depósitos de oro, plata y otros minerales han sido encontrados bajos los glaciares. Para llegar hasta ellos será necesario quebrar y destruir los glaciares -algo nunca concebido en la historia del mundo- y hacer 2 grandísimos huecos, cada uno tan grande como una montaña, uno para la extracción y otro para el deshecho de la mina.
El proyecto se llama PASCUA LAMA. La compañía se llama Barrick Gold. La operación esta siendo planeada por una multinacional de la cual es miembro George Bush padre…
El gobierno Chileno ha aprobado el proyecto para que empiece este año. La Única razón por la cual no ha empezado aún, es porque los campesinos han obtenido un aplazamiento.
Si destruyen los glaciares, no solamente destruirán la fuente de un agua especialmente pura, pero contaminarán permanentemente los 2 ríos de tal forma que nunca volverán a ser aptos para consumo por humanos o animales debido al uso de cianuro y ácido sulfúrico en el proceso de extracción.
Hasta el último gramo de oro será enviado a la multinacional en el extranjero y ni uno le quedará a la gente a quien le pertenece esta tierra .
A ellos solo les quedará el agua envenenada y las enfermedades consiguientes. Los campesinos llevan bastante tiempo peleando por su tierra, pero no han podido recurrir a la TV por una prohibición del Ministerio del Interior.
Su única esperanza para frenar este proyecto es obtener ayuda de la justicia Internacional.
El mundo debe enterarse de lo que esta pasando en Chile … El lugar por donde empezar a cambiar el mundo es nuestro lugar.
Circula este mensaje entre tus amigos de esta forma:
Por favor copie este texto y péguenlo a un mensaje nuevo, añadiendo su firma y enviándolo a todas las personas en su archivo de direcciones, con copia oculta (CCO).
No a la mina abierta Pascua Lama en la cordillera andina sobre la Frontera entre Chile-Argentina .
Pedimos al gobierno Chileno que no autorice el proyecto Pascua Lama para proteger la totalidad de 2 glaciares, la pureza del agua de los valles de San Félix y El Tránsito, la calidad de la tierra cultivable en la Región de
Atacama y la calidad de vida de la gente afectada de la Región.
La respuesta de BARRICK GOLD:
http://www.barrick.com/Default.aspx?Sec ... nguageId=1
Barrick responds to Pascua-Lama Chain Email
June 2006
We have received a number of emails regarding a chain letter questioning the Company’s Pascua-Lama project in Chile. We believe that it is important that you have factual information about our operations, projects and activities. Contrary to the misleading and inaccurate statements contained in the email letter, there are facts that we believe you should be aware of.
Most importantly, the completely inaccurate assertion is made that “Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold….it would be necessary to break, to destroy the glaciers…” This is simply not the case: 95% of the orebody is NOT under glaciers/ice fields. Protection of the remaining 5% is a key condition of the Chilean authorities’ approval of the project.
About Pascua-Lama
The Pascua-Lama project is the first bi-national mining project in the world. The deposit is located on the border between Chile and Argentina. The Mining Integration Treaty between both countries and a specific protocol signed for Pascua-Lama provides the framework for its development.
Approval of Environmental Impact Study
After an extensive and rigorous review including public consultations, the project’s environmental impact study was approved by Chilean authorities in February 2006. The detailed examination and scrutiny occurred over 14 months and included independent experts and validation of technical data submitted to the authorities. In addition to prescribed public consultations, Barrick voluntarily participated in additional public dialogues and meetings.
The approval of the project in Chile (Resolution - RCA 024/2006) lists more than 400 conditions which Barrick must meet to be able to build and operate the Pascua-Lama Project, including very stringent commitments and controls for the protection of glaciers/ice fields and water resources.
Protecting Water Quality
Barrick´s commitment is that there will be no significant impact on the water users in the valley, either in terms of quality or quantity. Barrick´s confidence in this commitment to the residents of the Huasco Valley is based on more than five years of measured water quality and quantity data in the project area. The system, as designed, will minimize the amount of runoff water coming in contact with mining operations. Multiple barriers of passive and active protection will be used to ensure that any surface or ground water that does come in contact with mining operations is captured and stored for treatment and subsequently completely reused in the mine operations. There are no planned operational discharges to the environment and there is sufficient capacity in the system to provide protection downstream of the project even in extreme runoff events during the life of the mine and after closure. Moreover, the anticipated closure requirements are being built into the project at the beginning of construction.
Additionally, the project will include a comprehensive water quality monitoring and management program, including 30 automated points from which data will be readily available in real time to the authorities and the public and subject to regular independent verification. The quality of water leaving Barrick property, some 15 km upstream of the nearest settlement, will be inspected, controlled and independently audited to comply with legal water quality standards. The expanded number of monitoring points is a direct result of community consultation and dialogue with stakeholders.
Extensive Citizen Participation
Barrick has conducted extensive public participation programs in the communities in Chile and in Argentina - both during the formal processes established by law and also as part of voluntary initiatives. These have included public meetings, door-to-door visits and the distribution of information to keep the community informed of our plans and activities.
Community Relations and Sustainable Development
We are proactively involving the communities in sustainable development initiatives notwithstanding the fact that the project has not yet begun construction. We have initiated a number of social development programs which include significant investments in health, education and skills development training - the latter being part of our commitment to maximize local employment. We also have local supplier development programs in place which will contribute to the development of local capacity and the realization of economic benefits in the region.
Once construction activity is initiated, we will be investing significantly in sustainable development projects to be determined by and based on the priorities of the local communities. In fact, Barrick has committed to make an unprecedented contribution to enhance the distribution, efficiency, and quality of the water resources for all users by working together with the board of water users of the Huasco Valley in Chile and the authorities and irrigators in San Juan Province in Argentina.
The Pascua-Lama Project represents significant and sustainable social and economic benefits to the communities closest to it on both sides of the border. The economic benefits include:
* 5,500 jobs during the construction stage (2006-2009) and 1,660 in the estimated 20 years of operations. Barrick is committed to working with local employees, and in the last year, more than 3,500 people from the Huasco Valley have participated in training activities to acquire skills and knowledge to work on the Pascua-Lama project or other projects in the region;
* A significant component of the estimated US$2.3-2.4 billion capital investment would be directly invested in the Huasco province in Chile and San Juan province in Argentina;
* Consistent with the company’s policy of sourcing local goods and services, Barrick has identified more than 600 potential suppliers from Chile’s Region III; and
* Sustainable development projects have been and will continue to be a priority for funding to the tune of millions of dollars focused in the areas of education, health, infrastructure and agricultural improvement
Misleading Assertions and Facts
The chain letter makes some very misleading characterizations and inaccurate statements. Here are a few examples:
Statement: “water in Chile runs from 2 rivers, fed by 2 glaciers.”
Fact: The Huasco Valley has more than 50 different glaciers and ice fields. The three smaller glaciers or ice fields that are adjacent to the orebody comprise only 0.3% of the potential water resources in the Valley if they were to be destroyed, which was never to be the case.
Statement: “…there is no unemployment...”
Fact: Contrary to this statement, unemployment levels in Region III are among the highest in Chile – the most recent statistics according to the Chilean Statistics Agency reveal rates in the valley in question to be approximately 18%. The mayors representing the four municipalities and most of the community leaders in the Huasco Valley have vocally expressed their support of Pascua-Lama indicating that they believe Barrick will conduct an environmentally responsible project and the generation of economic benefits are needed for the long term sustainable development of the region.
As an illustration of the lack of employment opportunities, Barrick has received over 50,000 applications for jobs. Chileans in the Region III and Argentineans from San Juan are looking for meaningful employment opportunities and the ability to support their families. Human beings deserve the opportunity to make a decent livelihood.
Statement: “Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold….it would be necessary to break, to destroy the glaciers…”
Fact: Contrary to the fundamental premise of the email chain letter, the orebody is NOT under glaciers. This is simply not the case: 95% of the orebody is NOT under glaciers/ice fields. Protection of the remaining 5% is a key condition of the Chilean authorities’ approval of the project.
Statement: “The operation is planned by a multi-national company, one of whose members is George Bush, Sr.”
Fact: Mr. Bush served in an honorary capacity as an advisor to Barrick’s International Advisory Board for two years in the mid 1990’s. Mr. Bush was neither a director nor officer of the Company.
Statement: “If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just destroy the source of especially pure water, but they will permanently contaminate the 2 rivers…”
Fact: To underline its confidence in its operations and commitment to responsible mining practices, Barrick has committed that should the water quality change, it would immediately stop the project. In addition to the multiple barriers of protection built into the design, the Company has a comprehensive water quality monitoring and management program, which will include 30 automated points from which data will be readily available in real time for authorities and the public. This program will be subject to regular independent verification. The expanded number of monitoring points is a direct result of community consultation and dialogue with stakeholders.
Statement: “Every last gram of gold will go abroad…and not one will be left with the people…”
Fact: There will be substantial economic benefits that include 5,500 direct jobs during construction, 1,660 jobs during the two decades of operation, and the indirect job creation and tax revenues generated that will flow back to the communities. In addition, there will be substantial investment in infrastructure, the development of hundreds of local suppliers of goods and services and the implementation of sustainable development programs.
Statement: “The farmers…have been forbidden to make a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior”
Fact: The Water Users Cooperative, representing 2,000 farmers of the Huasco Valley, is fully supportive of the project. Chile is a democratic country and the media play an important role in the public discussion of the community concerns and interests. There has already been an extensive and open discussion of issues including the participation of farmers.
Barrick is committed to high standards and to meaningful dialogue with stakeholders for the long term interests of the areas in which we operate and the sustainability of the environment and communities affected by our operations. We hope this information provides you with some additional perspective on our project. We are very proud of the work we are doing and of the extensive support we have for this initiative at the local and regional level.
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