TXAR Ternium Argentina (ex ERAR)

[danyf]

Digo Morgan stanley

Es la misma que nos mando al hoyo en el 2008 de Emergentes a frontera

La Argentina pierde la condición de emergente y pasa a ser fronterizo
https://www.iprofesional.com/notas/7869 ... fronterizo

[MILONGA]

Cierto, no jodamos, las publicaciones del MSCI y las recategorizaciones son todo humo, yo no se por que publican estas cosas en la página oficial del JP Morgan.

A mi el JP zMorgan me chupa un huevo y más con ese apellido. Ya nos empomaron un montón de veces. No les doy bola.

[danyf]

Digo Morgan stanley

[danyf]

Deje de creer en los pececitos de colores. Ahora resulta que los fondos venden a pérdida porque dejamos de ser fronterizos!!! Si tenemos un presidente que es fronterizo, no jodamos.!!

Cierto, no jodamos, las publicaciones del MSCI y las recategorizaciones son todo humo, yo no se por que publican estas cosas en la página oficial del JP Morgan.

[MILONGA]

Deje de creer en los pececitos de colores. Ahora resulta que los fondos venden a pérdida porque dejamos de ser fronterizos!!! Si tenemos un presidente que es fronterizo, no jodamos.!!

[alacrán]

Y una deuda de aprox u$s 550 palos

[alacrán]

Les pido disculpas, pero los datos certeros son estos al 31/12/02 ejercicio ajustado x inflación después del desastre.
Ventas 2002 ajustadas $ 2.550 unos u$s 850 anuales
Utilidad operativa $ 590 unos u$s 200 anuales
Capital 347 millones
VL $ 3,38

Este fue el año de salida porque en el anterior perdió guita. Felices Pascuas.

[alacrán]

Perdón corrijo debía unos 200 palos verdes al 30/06/01 y vendía una miseria alrededor de u$s 300 anuales

Ni punto de comparación con la empresa que es hoy

[alacrán]

Perdón corrijo debía unos 200 palos verdes al 30/06/01 y vendía una miseria alrededor de u$s 300 anuales

[alacrán]

Ferp, estaba muy complicada nada que ver con lo de hoy. Tenía Capital de 347 aprox VL $ 1,60 aprox cuando presentó el ajustado x inflación al 30/07/01, debía unos u$s 550 palos verdes, vendía unos U$s 1.000 anuales y perdía guita. El vuelco posterior fue fenomenal.

[ferp]

Una vez que salen las personas con las cacerolas, cae de la rua, se dicta el default a los gritos y se cambian 5 presidentes, esa etapa que va del 19 de diciembre a los primeros días de enero, en esos 20 días de caos, el papel cuadriplica su valor.
El mercado se anticipa siempre, desde abril del 2001 que se fue en picada, pero recién cuando estalló en la calle el caos no hizo otra cosa que subir.

Linda enseñanza de los tiempos del mkt.

Hola Conde, muy interesante todo lo que contás de aquellos momentos. Te hago una consulta, y obviamente sabiendo que aquella era una situación mucho más grave que esta. Tenés idea en aquel momento que VL, PER y EBDITA tenia txar...lo que quiero saber es cuánto más barata que ahora estaba? Sí alguién sabe
Gracias

[carlob]

Announcement for April 16, 2019 at 08:17 PM GMT

THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE MSCI GLOBAL STANDARD INDEXES

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI ARGENTINA AND
MSCI SAUDI ARABIA INDEXES TO EMERGING MARKETS AND THE WEIGHT INCREASE OF CHINA A
SHARES IN THE MSCI EMERGING MARKETS INDEXES

MSCI Inc. (NYSE: MSCI), a leading provider of research-based indexes and
analytics, announced on June 20, 2018 that the MSCI Argentina and the MSCI Saudi
Arabia Indexes will be reclassified to Emerging Markets from Frontier Markets
and Standalone Markets, respectively. In addition, on February 28, 2019, MSCI
announced that it will increase the weight of China A shares in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI ARGENTINA
INDEXES

MSCI will implement the inclusion of the MSCI Argentina Indexes in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes in one step coinciding with the May 2019 Semi-Annual
Index Review (SAIR). As part of the May 2019 SAIR, the MSCI Argentina Indexes
will converge with the MSCI Provisional Argentina Indexes, which are rebalanced
using Emerging Markets size and liquidity requirements, and added to the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI SAUDI ARABIA
INDEXES

The inclusion of the MSCI Saudi Arabia Indexes will be implemented in two equal
steps, measured in terms of free float-adjusted market capitalization,
coinciding with the May 2019 SAIR and August 2019 Quarterly Index Review (QIR).

In the first step, the MSCI Saudi Arabia Indexes will be rebalanced using
Emerging Markets size and liquidity requirements and included in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes with an Index Inclusion Factor of 0.5 as part of the
May 2019 SAIR. In the second step, the Index Inclusion Factor of the Saudi
Arabian securities in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes will be increased to 1
as part of the August 2019 QIR.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WEIGHT INCREASE OF CHINA A SHARES

The weight increase of China A shares in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes will
be implemented according to the following schedule:
- Increase the Index Inclusion Factor of all China A Large Cap shares in the
MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 5% to 10% and add ChiNext Large Cap shares
with a 10% inclusion factor coinciding at the May 2019 SAIR.
- Increase the inclusion factor of all China A Large Cap shares, including the
ChiNext Large Cap shares, in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 10% to 15%
at the August 2019 QIR.
- Increase the inclusion factor of all China A Large Cap shares, including the
ChiNext Large Cap shares, in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 15% to 20%
and add China A Mid Cap shares, including eligible ChiNext Mid Cap shares, with
a 20% inclusion factor at the November 2019 SAIR.

In order to prevent reverse turnover in the Standard MSCI China Index, MSCI will
not implement migrations between the Large Cap and the Mid Cap Size-Segments in
the MSCI China Indexes until the inclusion of Mid Cap China A shares at the
November 2019 SAIR. This treatment is applicable to all share classes across all
MSCI China Indexes with the exception of the MSCI China A Onshore Indexes.

To provide more transparency on the construction and maintenance of the MSCI
Saudi Arabia Index and the MSCI Provisional Argentina Index, MSCI has made
available a list of securities that are part of the Investable Equity Universe
of the MSCI Saudi Arabia and MSCI Provisional Argentina Indexes on
https://www.msci.com/market-classification.

MSCI has also made available a detailed Q&A document on:
https://www.msci.com/market-classification.

The updated MSCI Global Investable Market Indexes Methodology with details on
the implementation of the above changes has been posted on
https://www.msci.com/index-methodology.

For further information on MSCI indexes or MSCI data, please visit our web site
at http://www.msci.com, or contact:

MSCI Global Client Service:
Americas Client Service: 1.888.588.4567 (toll free)/+ 1.212.804.3901 EMEA Client
Service: + 44.20.7618.2222 Asia Pacific Client Service: + 852.2844.9333

THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE MSCI GLOBAL STANDARD INDEXES

End of announcement.
Further announcements may occur as needed.

Parece q Clarin esta en lo cierto esta vez...

[chewbaca]

mala mia, ojala sea asi

[danyf]

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[danyf]

Announcement for April 16, 2019 at 08:17 PM GMT

THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE MSCI GLOBAL STANDARD INDEXES

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI ARGENTINA AND
MSCI SAUDI ARABIA INDEXES TO EMERGING MARKETS AND THE WEIGHT INCREASE OF CHINA A
SHARES IN THE MSCI EMERGING MARKETS INDEXES

MSCI Inc. (NYSE: MSCI), a leading provider of research-based indexes and
analytics, announced on June 20, 2018 that the MSCI Argentina and the MSCI Saudi
Arabia Indexes will be reclassified to Emerging Markets from Frontier Markets
and Standalone Markets, respectively. In addition, on February 28, 2019, MSCI
announced that it will increase the weight of China A shares in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI ARGENTINA
INDEXES

MSCI will implement the inclusion of the MSCI Argentina Indexes in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes in one step coinciding with the May 2019 Semi-Annual
Index Review (SAIR). As part of the May 2019 SAIR, the MSCI Argentina Indexes
will converge with the MSCI Provisional Argentina Indexes, which are rebalanced
using Emerging Markets size and liquidity requirements, and added to the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE MSCI SAUDI ARABIA
INDEXES

The inclusion of the MSCI Saudi Arabia Indexes will be implemented in two equal
steps, measured in terms of free float-adjusted market capitalization,
coinciding with the May 2019 SAIR and August 2019 Quarterly Index Review (QIR).

In the first step, the MSCI Saudi Arabia Indexes will be rebalanced using
Emerging Markets size and liquidity requirements and included in the MSCI
Emerging Markets Indexes with an Index Inclusion Factor of 0.5 as part of the
May 2019 SAIR. In the second step, the Index Inclusion Factor of the Saudi
Arabian securities in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes will be increased to 1
as part of the August 2019 QIR.

DETAILS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WEIGHT INCREASE OF CHINA A SHARES

The weight increase of China A shares in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes will
be implemented according to the following schedule:
- Increase the Index Inclusion Factor of all China A Large Cap shares in the
MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 5% to 10% and add ChiNext Large Cap shares
with a 10% inclusion factor coinciding at the May 2019 SAIR.
- Increase the inclusion factor of all China A Large Cap shares, including the
ChiNext Large Cap shares, in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 10% to 15%
at the August 2019 QIR.
- Increase the inclusion factor of all China A Large Cap shares, including the
ChiNext Large Cap shares, in the MSCI Emerging Markets Indexes from 15% to 20%
and add China A Mid Cap shares, including eligible ChiNext Mid Cap shares, with
a 20% inclusion factor at the November 2019 SAIR.

In order to prevent reverse turnover in the Standard MSCI China Index, MSCI will
not implement migrations between the Large Cap and the Mid Cap Size-Segments in
the MSCI China Indexes until the inclusion of Mid Cap China A shares at the
November 2019 SAIR. This treatment is applicable to all share classes across all
MSCI China Indexes with the exception of the MSCI China A Onshore Indexes.

To provide more transparency on the construction and maintenance of the MSCI
Saudi Arabia Index and the MSCI Provisional Argentina Index, MSCI has made
available a list of securities that are part of the Investable Equity Universe
of the MSCI Saudi Arabia and MSCI Provisional Argentina Indexes on
https://www.msci.com/market-classification.

MSCI has also made available a detailed Q&A document on:
https://www.msci.com/market-classification.

The updated MSCI Global Investable Market Indexes Methodology with details on
the implementation of the above changes has been posted on
https://www.msci.com/index-methodology.

For further information on MSCI indexes or MSCI data, please visit our web site
at www.msci.com, or contact:

MSCI Global Client Service:
Americas Client Service: 1.888.588.4567 (toll free)/+ 1.212.804.3901 EMEA Client
Service: + 44.20.7618.2222 Asia Pacific Client Service: + 852.2844.9333

THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE MSCI GLOBAL STANDARD INDEXES

End of announcement.
Further announcements may occur as needed.