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Mensajepor ugo38 » Lun Sep 13, 2021 3:02 pm

Quien jocara vende la C del mono. Dejala respirar viejo!

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Mensajepor green arrow » Sab Sep 11, 2021 9:29 pm

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Aluminum Industry Frets That Its Supply Snarls Have Just BegunBy 

Joe Deaux

September 10, 2021, 4:07 PM GMT-3Updated on September 11, 2021, 9:00 AM GMT-3

‘Mess is probably a good word,’ Constellium SE executive says

U.S. Midwest premium may hit record this year, Harbor Says

Supply-chain snags that have roiled commodity markets and helped push aluminum prices to a 13-year high this week are unlikely to ease any time soon.

That’s the message coming from producers, consumers, traders and shippers at North America’s largest aluminum conference, which ended Friday. 

Aluminum has jumped 48% this year on surging demand, shipping bottlenecks and production curbs in China, stoking inflation concerns and causing a major headache for consumer-goods producers facing worsening material shortages alongside the sharp rise in costs. Snarled supplies will continue to dog the industry through most of 2022, many conference participants said, with some projecting it could take as long as five years to resolve the issues.

Global supply chains, with container shipping as their backbone, are struggling to keep pace with the demand for goods and overcome labor disruptions caused by Covid outbreaks. Compounding matters in the aluminum industry are worker shortages at plants and a lack of truck drivers to deliver the metal that is available.

“For us it’s been a mess, and as we look ahead to 2022 we don’t see this going away any time soon unfortunately,” Mike Keown, the chief executive officer of Commonwealth Rolled Products, said at the Harbor Aluminum Summit in Chicago. “For us we think it’s just begun. It’s kept our head on a swivel this entire time.”

Commonwealth makes value-added aluminum products that it sells to the automotive industry, which has faced its own production issues because of a shortage of semiconductors.

 

 

Several aluminum-conference attendees said labor shortages are their biggest problem, and they don’t have any idea when the situation will slacken. 

“Consumers are ordering more than 100% of their expected needs,” Adam Jackson, the director of metals trading at Aegis Hedging, said in an interview. “They don’t expect to receive 100%, but if they over-order, maybe they’ll land on the right amount and not forfeit sales. Such a practice has a serious risk if prices fall and you’re carrying extra unhedged inventory.”

The surge in aluminum prices comes as producers and consumers negotiate annual supply contracts. Buyers are holding off as long as possible from making agreements because shipping premiums are so high. They’re also waiting for indications on whether Russia, the world’s second-largest aluminum producer, will keep an expensive export tax into next year, according to Jorge Vazquez, managing director at Harbor Intelligence.   

All of this could signal further price increases. Harbor Intelligence said its bull case for aluminum in 2022 is an average price of about $2,570 per metric ton. That’s about 9% higher than the average so far this year for benchmark aluminum traded in London. Harbor also estimates that the so-called Midwest premium, the amount added to deliver the metal to the U.S. Midwest, will surge to an all-time-high 40 cents a pound in the fourth quarter, which would mark a 185% increase from the end of 2020.

“Mess is probably a good word,” said Buddy Stemple, the CEO of Constellium SE’s rolled-products business in Ravenswood, West Virginia. “I have never been through a period like this in which you had so many factors at once.”

 

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Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino

Mensajepor 09ezemarq » Sab Sep 11, 2021 9:26 pm

green arrow escribió: Yo tenia una cantidad gratis fíjate que podes hasta 5 y después paganini :mrgreen:

jaja, a mi me dejo entrar, nunca entro ahi, debe ser por eso. Avisa que el precio del aluminio va a seguir en el corto y mediano plazo no necesariamente subiendo pero que se va a mantener en precios relativamente altos...

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Mensajepor green arrow » Sab Sep 11, 2021 9:20 pm

Crimsonking escribió: Che, no me alcanza para bloomberg. Hacete una síntesis. :lol:

Yo tenia una cantidad gratis fíjate que podes hasta 5 y después paganini :mrgreen:

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Mensajepor Crimsonking » Sab Sep 11, 2021 4:21 pm


Che, no me alcanza para bloomberg. Hacete una síntesis. :lol:

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Mensajepor alzamer » Sab Sep 11, 2021 3:32 pm

ugo38 escribió: Pego un salto la alumina a 365 usdton

ALUMINIUMCommodity 2,916.07+120.18+4.30%

2916 (+premio) - 730 = 2183 usd de margen ( mayor al margen Mayo 2018- febrero 2021 , con con costo CERO de alumina porque el precio del alauminio era < 2183)

Materia prima (alumina y otros ) = Materias primas, materiales y respuestos

17.176.576.185 al 30/6/21 moneda homogenea (alumina 270/300)

15.453.342.049 al 30/6/20 moneda homogenea (alumina 330/300)

Osea , 1600 millones más (10%) , pero el dólar subió menos que el 50% inflación interanual y la alumina era más cara, por lo que el aumento de fisco al 30/6/21 es > al 10%.

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Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino

Mensajepor ugo38 » Vie Sep 10, 2021 4:23 pm

Pego un salto la alumina a 365 usdton

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Mensajepor chewbaca » Vie Sep 10, 2021 2:51 pm

gago escribió: Esta confirmada esa suba de retenciones? Y cuanto mayor que la actual? Gracias

30% del valor actual

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Mensajepor gago » Vie Sep 10, 2021 1:39 pm

Esta confirmada esa suba de retenciones? Y cuanto mayor que la actual? Gracias

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Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino

Mensajepor Gustavo » Vie Sep 10, 2021 12:53 pm

Aumento de retenciones a las exportaciones de aluminio en 3, 2, 1...
¿La excusa? ¡Hay que cuidar la carpinteria de aluminio de los argentinos!

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Mensajepor ugo38 » Vie Sep 10, 2021 11:07 am

2920 usd/ton :arriba:

El vendedor ya esta jugado, lo lamento por el. La realidad lo va a pasar por encima.

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Mensajepor ugo38 » Vie Sep 10, 2021 8:05 am

:arriba: :arriba: :arriba:

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Re: ALUA Aluar Aluminio Argentino

Mensajepor ugo38 » Jue Sep 09, 2021 9:55 am

Los metales básicos siguen subiendo este jueves, apuntándose los futuros del níquel un alza del 2,4% hasta nuevos máximos de siete años, mientras que los futuros del aluminio subían un 1,3% hasta nuevos máximos de 13 años, tras conocerse que los fabricantes de aire acondicionado, que representan alrededor del 10% de la demanda china de cobre, están sustituyendo el cobre por el aluminio. Los precios mundiales de referencia del carbón de coque, utilizado para fabricar acero, también han alcanzado los 300 dólares por tonelada.

:shock: :arriba: :arriba:

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Mensajepor docc » Mié Sep 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Este es el tercer papel que menos perdió en dls, desde fin de enero de 2018 !


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